He nodded. "Red Skull created 'true faithful'. fanatics who thought he was a god and worshiped him as such." he admitted. "that is about the only difference between the two." he admitted, shaking his head before chuckling as Tony whined and wailed and protested that Science could never wait and that James deserved better.
"...Fury?" Thor asked, looking confused for a moment. "is he not your leader? i am sorry my freind. it is a hard day when you learn that your fa... that your leader is.... not what you thought." he admitted. luckily for Thor he knew nothing of Hydra at all and even had to be explained that it was not a seven headed serpent that breathed fire. when he was asked about Loki though he sagged in his chair and closed his eyes, looking guilty and horrified and ashamed. "yes." he whispered. "i know what happened to my brther... my poor brother... i didn't find out until after my father sent him to earth." here Thor's face twisted with bitterness. "yes. Humans who would torture him and eperiment on him if what you say about Fury and Shield is the truth..." Thor swallowed thickly. "my father is sick with pervasion and bigotry and racism..." he admitted softly. "he raised Loki specifically to make him a martyr... so that he could once again war with the frost giants and end their line completely like he did the Dark Elves." he admitted softly.
"There is a woman, named Lorelie." he explained. "she did not know of my fathers plans and so destroyed them... a single whisper from her poison lips and all men throw themselves before her in a haze of spell induced lust and love." he admitted. "she whispered to Loki, and be-spelled him. my brother is very strong. he fought her with every power he had in his body and she p...." Thor had to pause a moment to gather himself. "she punished him for it, and broke him... shattered his mind and still he fought her with every breath. he was strong and refused to die under hehr control...." here Thor's lip quivered. "there is a being, known as Titans... i don't know if you could understand if i tried to explain... they are... like the Gods that come before the Gods only... more? and yet less... this one was the Mad God Thanos, who has set his sights on universal domination. he was to start with earth. he bolstered Lorelie's powers, and Loki.... could not fight against that. he used an item, called the Mind Stone, to full break Loki's mind, and soul...."
Here Thor swallowed thickly. "and still Loki fought, so hard... he had to obey, he could not fight that way anymore but he did other things that Thanos and Lorelie did not notice.... he took Clint, and Selvig though he was not ordered to. making it deeply personal for both me, and Natasha as well as Fury and the Son of Coul. leading to the creation of the Avengers, was it not? it was all he could do, but it worked. he did other things as well. creating the fail safe to his machine. or instructing Selvig to, or giving him the chance, i do not know. drawing attention to himself over and over again. making it bright and flashy when he would normally had slipped in the shadows, silent as an eel until it was too late..." Thor swallowed thickly. "when Thnos found out... Loki screamed... and screamed... screamed for days... we didn't... d...d..didn't n..notice..." now Thor was weeping. "we... I, thought it was rage... Thanos B..B..Broke my B..B..Brother..." he shook his head. "when he F...Finally went S..Silent.... L...Loki W..Wouldn't..." Thor had reached the end of what he could handle and simply sat there, crying for what had been done to his precious brother.