Rudolph Quin said:It's amazing... It's like you completely don't get anything I said.Ruphhausin said:As for the dreaded "friendzone".... that is why "sister-zoning/mom-zoning" exists. I just have always thought it absolutely hilarious that happens and the female has a "right to get upset".. um.. fuck no you don't.
What? So, the "sisterzone(which I have never heard of, by the way)" is a one-upmanship? "Hey, you females aren't the only ones who get to decide who gets the sex! Ha!" Really? Coming from the guys who are the most motivated to want it? See, the point of the friendzone, since it flew over your head, is that men get fixated on getting sex from a relationship and feel like being told a woman is not interested in at the exact time they are(because the level of intimacy changes for some women depending on how long they know someone and can trust them) is a complete rejection forever, when it's not. The reason they get upset as a result of that is because that's what they really wanted from the relationship and being just friends(even if it's really a temporary state after all) isn't worth their time.
Alternatively, a guy tells me I'm like a sister to him and I'm complimented. You know why? Because even if I was looking to eventually get serious with him, that wasn't the top of my fucking list and I still value him for the person he is. Get it?
Um.. RQ... no.. I didn't misinterpret.. and yes, that does exists.. but no, it is not about any kind of one-upsmanship. It is about hypocrisy. You may find it a compliment, but lets be honest.
First, most females "friend-zone" because they do only want to be friends.. but more often than not some do it with the motive of also like having at least one "spare mount" in the barn. Second, it is A BOLD, BALD FACED LIE that only men want sex like you are saying.., and the foundation of some of what this thread is about, Rudolph Quin is LACK OF HONESTY IN COMMUNICATION (and thank you for validating that femi-fascist bullshit is still alive and well, btw). Third, depending on your age, you may find it a compliment to be seen like a guy's sister, or even like a mother.. but the truth is that it happens just like when the friend-zoning happens.. NO COMMUNICATION. Most guy don't get mad because "they want to sleep with every woman they know" but they "get friend-zoned", because that is "women's magazine" bullshit that rarely if ever tells the truth unless there is empirical evidence making them.. just like some men's magazines. They get mad about it when they are led to believe that there is substance for a relationship that is more than friendship.
I understood exactly what you said, all too well. I have been zoned by women who have been honest, and they are still my friends to this day. But I also have been "zoned" by women thinking just like I have described.. and it so doesn't work for me and I don't play that game. I don't want to sleep with every woman I met or know, nor do I retaliate like a child when I get turned down or zoned. But what I WAS SAYING is that I know women who have "zoned" for the motivations I have listed who the guy was not into them for that and just "saw them like a sister/mother"... and they have lost it worse than the "guys" I know as contrary to the adult men and women who take it the way is is supposed to be.
The stigma is not about retaliation, I say again.. but about the hypocrisy of behaving and acting like the men they condemn.