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Kinks and Stuff you hate

This is not a kink, and I've noticed people doing it in this thread but I'm not criticising as it's a personal choice but when I see other people saying it I'm reminded how often I default to it despite my desire, and efforts to do otherwise and that's when people talk about playing, 'against,' another person or character. It has taken some time, and effort to be mindful of this and instead say things like, 'alongside,' which I prefer, but it's so easy to slip.

Shiva the Cat said:
The first is corruption in a sexual sense.
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I've played enough leading ladies to come to dislike this a great deal as well. Something that often comes up in games with this theme which I find very galling is when one character wants to degrade the other for being compliant and doing what they want in a sexual context. I could accept reactions like that in a very dark game if it were being done in a self-aware way that was intended to be demeaning and manipulative, coming from a character who is meant to be read as an awful person. Otherwise it really rubs me the wrong way.

Shiva the Cat said:
But I'd be a lot more open to the idea of corruption if it was painted almost as a positive thing; for example, helping someone repressed embrace and celebrate their sexuality, maybe with some orgies or partner-swapping to help them figure out what they like?
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In that instance I suspect a lot of the people who want these games would not be interested anymore. I might be though. Heck I used to have a plot idea which was about a character trying to help another character who was extremely repressed. Maybe I should whip it into shape and post it up.

Shiva the Cat said:
Or conversely if I'm in a particularly dark mood, maybe the negative aspects of corruption don't revolve around the victim becoming obsessed with sex (newsflash: no one's dick is that good), but the fact that they have a mental/emotional attachment to a person that makes them do horrible/illegal/immoral things outside of a sexual context.
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I get a huge kick out of general corruption or redemption stories personally, but what gets to me in this context is that changes in a characters point of view, philosophy, etc., are so often achieved in the same way, and seldom with any deliberate action. Personally I want characters to argue about ethics and philosophy, and I don't see why a woman can't change a man for the worse (and by some mechanism other than him wanting to bang her) or vice-versa, and I think both characters should be changed by the end. It shouldn't just be one character as this immovable pillar and the other being bent around them.

Shiva the Cat said:
I hate that older female characters are almost never allowed to be people, only sex objects.
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Funny I'm writing a story now where the leading man has a hopeless infatuation with an older woman, and when he actually gets a chance to really spend time with her he finds she is a very different person to what he had assumed, and she becomes the protagonist.
 
Dub Con/Non con. This has a huge issue for me; consent is required. Characters have to want what's happening to them. Even if it's uncomfortable/embarrassing/inconvenient. Which is a big problem because a lot of people do not want to play their characters willing.

Human only, or "you be a thing but I'm going to be a human".
 
I'm not fond of dragons. In anything, any kind. Little dragons, big rider dragons, eastern dragons, sentient dragons, etc. I cringe whenever they come up. I have started(and did not finish) just way too many dragon shifter bond-mate romance crap where the "dragon side" of the guy is a possessive voice inside him, edgy as fuck and equivocating the female lead/object of desire with "treasure" and a desire to hoard her.
 
Hrairoo said:
I'm not fond of dragons. In anything, any kind. Little dragons, big rider dragons, eastern dragons, sentient dragons, etc. I cringe whenever they come up. I have started(and did not finish) just way too many dragon shifter bond-mate romance crap where the "dragon side" of the guy is a possessive voice inside him, edgy as fuck and equivocating the female lead/object of desire with "treasure" and a desire to hoard her.
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You bring up memories from many years ago. I delt with that very thing. Way, way too many dragon bonders that were nothing but thinly veiled bad smut with Mary Sue.

I can see were non con is such a big NO with people. It became such a big no with me with the group I used play with several years ago. The Red Queens characters were canan in name and appearance only, they were constantly raped and the characters acted like it was no worse then a paper cut.....gross all around
 
rose_and_raven said:
I can see were non con is such a big NO with people. It became such a big no with me with the group I used play with several years ago. The Red Queens characters were canan in name and appearance only, they were constantly raped and the characters acted like it was no worse then a paper cut.....gross all around
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Generally it is a no from me too. That said it depends on how it is done what the story is like, the interaction between the characters etc. I played one once where this wealthy heiress has a car accident and loses her memory. She is found by the side of the road by this man who worked for her fathers company and was recently laid off. He initially starts off doing the right thing but when she tells him she doesn't remember anything about herself he starts to weave a story about how they know each other, he concocts a whole backstory for her.

It becomes a very story based plot which is of course Non Con and Manipulation etc things I don't normally go for but the story is great.

But yes if it is just a character being abused than that is boring and pointless as is any type of smut fest really.
 
I was thinking "but I love dragons" and then... In a sexual way? What? no.

Dubcon I love but there must be attraction. Noncon is a non. Corruption just being sexual doesn't interest me, there must be more than that. I hate smutfests and random abuse to be edgy. Still I love some darkness. But with a happy end. Which might be the h being corrupted and THINKING this is a happy ending, so it is from the villain's and her pov, but is it really?

As for what I hate, competing with another woman, YC being into another woman, basically what in novels they call "other woman"
 
RedRose said:
I was thinking "but I love dragons" and then... In a sexual way? What? no.
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It's fine for you to like them. I was talking about me and stuff that I personally hate. I dislike them in every context, including nonsexual. They just seem cringey and immature to me. Like, OP and "super special".
 
Absolutely also will not do other woman.

"Conquest" talk. Skeeves me out. I don't know how to explain it well but I know it when I see it.

MFF(FFF etc) relationships. I realize it's hypocritical because I do FMM(MMM etc) but I have legitimate trauma associated with the things I've listed here. I'm not saying just not liking one over the other is a bad reason though. You can just not like something and that's valid for not wanting to do it. I'm simply adding this because some people think they can wheedle me into my hard limits. No. You can't. They are hard for a reason.
 
Hate is such a strong word, but it's typical for all you youngsters (meaning anyone under my age).

There should be no hatred in life as is, we have differences in what we like, but I dont hate other people's likings. It's really not good to hate MM writing or FF or MMF or whatever.

So let me write it my way. I'm only into slice of life. And everything else is not my cup of tea. But that doesn't mean I hate it, you people have so much to learn still. Make love, not war.
 
Tanakalian said:
Hate is such a strong word, but it's typical for all you youngsters (meaning anyone under my age).

There should be no hatred in life as is, we have differences in what we like, but I dont hate other people's likings. It's really not good to hate MM writing or FF or MMF or whatever.

So let me write it my way. I'm only into slice of life. And everything else is not my cup of tea. But that doesn't mean I hate it, you people have so much to learn still. Make love, not war.
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Wow, I am not exactly a "youngster" myself but just took the word "hate" as being something you dislike to a great degree. It's a casual chat thread not a court of law.

I also don't think you realize the animosity you are putting through in your post which makes your "make love not war" stance a little hypocritical.
 
Tanakalian said:
There should be no hatred in life as is
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I appreciate the sentiment but hate isn't always used to denote soul-blackening antipathy. Reading through this thread I think people already have a sense of perspective here, and are just venting about things they find annoying or objectionable. I might be missing something but I don't see anyone making war, or kink-shaming. I do agree with you though that this is all ultimately a question of personal preference.

On that note...

Lady Irony said:
What I dislike about a lot of older female characters is the face claims that get used aren't even of older women they are women in their 20's.
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I missed this, but to the extent that I have a major pet-peeve beyond the first thing I noted then PBs and character descriptions in general are where I find them.

PBs from porn or of porn-stars automatically put me off. For one thing no matter how high-end the shoot may be I can always pick when someone is sending me an image of a porn-star. It's this unmistakable combination of the physical aesthetic of the actors in the industry, the way images are framed, and the hair, makeup, costuming and set-design. It tells me the other person wants a smut fest, and I wouldn't disbelieve them if they offered some other explanation as to why they'd picked such a PB, but in my experience people choose porn-star PBs so they can have access to pornographic images and .gifs to incorporate into the game or even base scenes around and that is miles outside of my wheelhouse.

The other big one can definitely be subjective, but it's when a PB just doesn't work, and admittedly we may differ on what a, 'girl next door,' or, 'straight-laced professor,' should look like, and that's fine. However if the game calls for the leading lady to be a thirty-four year old picking an eighteen year old is just wrong, and that's not subjective at all. Likewise some jobs demand or exclude certain aesthetics. A fashion model probably won't be five feet tall with waist-length purple hair, a district attorney probably won't be covered in prison ink, and so on.
 
TheAuthorFormerlyKnownAs said:
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I missed this, but to the extent that I have a major pet-peeve beyond the first thing I noted then PBs and character descriptions in general are where I find them.

PBs from porn or of porn-stars automatically put me off. For one thing no matter how high-end the shoot may be I can always pick when someone is sending me an image of a porn-star. It's this unmistakable combination of the physical aesthetic of the actors in the industry, the way images are framed, and the hair, makeup, costuming and set-design. It tells me the other person wants a smut fest, and I wouldn't disbelieve them if they offered some other explanation as to why they'd picked such a PB, but in my experience people choose porn-star PBs so they can have access to pornographic images and .gifs to incorporate into the game or even base scenes around and that is miles outside of my wheelhouse.

The other big one can definitely be subjective, but it's when a PB just doesn't work, and admittedly we may differ on what a, 'girl next door,' or, 'straight-laced professor,' should look like, and that's fine. However if the game calls for the leading lady to be a thirty-four year old picking an eighteen year old is just wrong, and that's not subjective at all. Likewise some jobs demand or exclude certain aesthetics. A fashion model probably won't be five feet tall with waist-length purple hair, a district attorney probably won't be covered in prison ink, and so on.
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That is why I really just prefer a description. With a description I can weave my own image of the character and really it doesn't matter if my mental image differs from my partners mental image of what their character (or my own) looks like. As long as the basics are consistent so I am not talking about their characters long hair when they in fact have short hair or how their eyes are emerald green when they are really blue etc.

I agree the porn star look tends to be easily spotted even when I have no idea who the starlet is. I just know they are some kind of porn.

Yes, again we agree. I like consistency and realism. If your character is a shy wallflower than perhaps the photo of the woman with her tits bursting out of her singlet doesn't really work? I have seen the RT's where the story is some kind of action theme and yet the face claims are generic looking model/porn star types, I don't buy them as action heroes.

It does make me feel that the person just wants a smut fest as you suggest rather than to create a serious story. Same goes with anime/animated face claims.
 
Oh yes I just say "I hate" but I don't mean I'm turning into a villain (LOL).

And yes, I'm not going to share, have YC think of another lady, or anything. Why? Because I don't LIKE (as Caroline Ingalls would say) it. As a result I'd never enforce MMF to someone who doesn't want it as I won't reciprocate. I don't write F/F because I'm not interested but it doesn't make me feel any of the bad feeling "two women one man" or competition does. And yes I actually don't mind competition with another dude, I actually find it really interesting. I'm currently writing a story where my character is married to a man who fucks other men. She has just discovered it. She doesn't like it but I do. I have no problem with this. Just no cheating with another woman, comparing with another woman or into another woman. How many times can I say another woman?

Porn star look, I don't like it. I also don't like Simpson (!)

I see what it is with immature dragons, like the kind of fantasy I also don't like. I used to read and write a lot of fantasy but now many types get on my nerves.

And no, I don't know why I hate other woman. I've never been cheated on to my knowledge. I've never seen mom competing with anyone or anything lol. "Ow" is a thing that many hate, check on Goodreads... For me it's not even the adultery as I will write it if the lover is male. I dunno. Certainly I'm coherent because I don't like it in books, movies and IRL it would be a murder case. One of the few first things I check on from start is whether he has wandering eyes or likes to flirt... Because that's an immediate stop.
 
Older male/younger female incest.

Just being called "daddy" makes me feel gross. (Oddly, this doesn't apply to "Papi"; I know the two mean teh same thing, but it sounds cute there.)
 
More of a peeve then anything, vampires. So very boring to me. I don't understand why any one wants sex from something that is DEAD. Cold and dead.
 
The feminisation kink irritates me when I wish to play as a sub.

I'll explain, as I'm not trying to kink shame. Every now and then I get the urge to play as a sub, which I do against other male characters pitted against my own. Not wanting to have my character wearing dresses, panties or make-up in that way, at least as a fetish though I am okay with it for fun and playful scenes, or to have him emasculated or 'sissified' as the common term is, I reduce the pool of potential writing partners by at least 50% and I feel I'm being generous there. I'm not against the kink, I'm into enough to not judge others for anything they enjoy, I just dislike that it's so often a dealbreaker.
 
Staine said:
The feminisation kink irritates me when I wish to play as a sub.

I'll explain, as I'm not trying to kink shame. Every now and then I get the urge to play as a sub, which I do against other male characters pitted against my own. Not wanting to have my character wearing dresses, panties or make-up in that way, at least as a fetish though I am okay with it for fun and playful scenes, or to have him emasculated or 'sissified' as the common term is, I reduce the pool of potential writing partners by at least 50% and I feel I'm being generous there. I'm not against the kink, I'm into enough to not judge others for anything they enjoy, I just dislike that it's so often a dealbreaker.
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Whether I am playing the sub male or the female domme I like to explore the idea of submission in it's various forms from a very male and straight viewpoint. If the male character is wearing panties or being forced to have sex with men etc than that loses it for me. I also think it is one of those extreme fetishes and all sense of story will just be thrown aside in favour of a smut fest.

From a logical point of view as well it doesn't make much sense to me that a Dominant woman would want to turn her male into what is basically a parody of womanhood. Sure it might humiliate him but it doesn't really fit with the idea of a strong proud woman either. Not in my mind at least. And you don't see dominant males turning their female subs into Tomboys.

I like some balance and air of reality. The sub is submitting because he wants to, he feels it completes him in some way etc He isn't a doormat either though. Again it is that challenge and conflict that I enjoy exploring regardless of the theme. I want the story and therefore nuances are important to keep it interesting.
 
This isn't something that often happens now, but when I'd RP on Omegle, there were a lot of people that wanted 'slutty,' sexually aggressive female roles yet became ridiculously passive and mildly reacted to the character trying to seduce them
 
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