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Story thread there: http://www.bluemoonroleplaying.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12020


I just want to know if anyone is interested in this idea. The world it's based off of is a fantasy world for a novel I've had in the works since I was five. I'm not putting in the acutal story or the characters, just the setting and the boiling point. If i get enough people interested, I'd like to do this as an open roleplay.

Basic story:

There are four kingdoms involved. Anstaria (situated in the middle of the map) has been at war for as long as anyone could remember with Loidi. The two kingdoms seemed to always butt heads, no matter the topic. Anstaria believed in protecting its women, while Loidi gave theirs more freedoms. Anstaria was pro-science and anti-magic, and Loidi still put stock in court wizards and healers. War tore the two kingdoms apart and the strain finally got to the respective kings.

Calling on a truce meeting, they invited two moderators from neighboring kingdoms. For Anstaria, the kingdom of Danbar is invited, their allies in the south. For Loidi, it was a surprise when they arrived with delegates from Goldspar, a warring kingdom to the far north that is in a constant state of politica upheaval. Both mediators have reasons for the status quo to continue and keep the truce from being signed.

The Kingdoms:

Anstaria (Anstarians)​

This is the most rigid kingdom of the four kingdoms. As the loser of the long-ago war that started this mess, they took several steps to never have that problem. After the end of the Hexen wars, Anstaria outlawed magic in all forms. They formed the Ritter Hex, special knights who hunt down any rumors of magic in the boundaries of the kingdom and erradicate it. They are the toughest warriors, and the products of nightmares. After the break of the kingdom, causing the princess to run off with a wizard and forming her own land of Hekata, the ruling Anstarian king had a wall built around the kingdom to keep out the evil influences of the other kingdoms. In time, only Danbar and a few other select kingdoms were let inside.

Women do not have much freedom. They must, at all times, be escorted when they leave. The women's quarters are always found away from the men unless he calls for his wife. A woman can own land if her husband is dead, but it is highly advisable for her to remarry quickly. The poor have more freedom then nobility, where women can work beside her husband and even have the run of the home.

Anstaria is ruled by the king and his son. The daughter is prized by her family and knows she will never inherit the throne and a perfect marriage is one that wouldn't jeopedize the throne of her homeland.

Loidi (Loidites)

The near polar opposite of Anstaria. As the winner of the Hexen War, they enjoy the magic and prestigue of their victory. They are very pro-magic, more so then any other kingdom. Magic is a way of life, and they look down on the Anstarians for their superstition (who, in turn, look down on the Loidites for being agents of evil). Through magic, they claim to be able to do anything that the science of Anstaria can do. When the idea of the truce came through, the prince of Loidi saw it as a great way to gain control over their enemies once he found out about the princess. However, he isn't stingy on how he gets to the Anstarian throne and is willing to settle, if need be, on using magic to get them to give up their kingdom and end the fighting.

Women in Loidi are equal to the men. They have the same freedoms as the men. They can own land and trade property and even fight in the army. They have a chance to get as much education as a man.

The ruling family of Loidi is the king, queen, the elder son and the younger son (who is training to be a wizard) and the uncle.

Danbar (Danbarians)​

This kingdom has enjoyed exclusive trading rights with Anstaria. A kingdom that does rely on magic, but enjoys the scientific advances of Anstaria. Their women have some freedoms, but not as much as Loidi. The women can own land and property, but their education is restricted and it is encouraged that they marry and stay with a man for protection.

Goldspar (Goldsparites)​

This kingdom is untrustworthy. Always in a political upheaval, they have a new ruling party nearly every year. Magic and assassinations are the norm. They are greedy and manipulative. The current ruler wants the rich land of Loidi, but will take Anstaria if they can. To get this, they are hoping to convince the two kingdoms that peace is out of the question, and pitting the delegates and hormonally driven heirs against each other seems to be a good idea.


Cast of Characters: (my profiles for the characters will be in the next post)

Anstaria:
King -
Queen -
Prince/Heir - Gavin (ChocolateStrawberry)
Princess - Dione (ChocolateStrawberry)
Ritter Hex (if any) - Ser Gareth Eloran (GammaHeart)
Nobels (if any) -
Servants (if any) -

Loidi:
King -
Prince/Heir - Prince Tansen Haron (Skelace)
Younger Prince - Deston (Skelace)
Uncle - Alastor (Crazy Shank)
Advisors -
Bodyguards - Lana (Crazy Shank)

Danbar:​
Delegates - Lord Martinez (Arc)
Bodyguards -
Soldiers -
Servants -

Goldspar:
Delegates - Lady Masako (Raiden)
Valere de Morhban (Nihil)
Honoré de Morhban. (Temera)
Bodyguards - Reina Nilan (Raiden)
Wizards -
Soldiers -
Servants -
 
Your right. You're evil plots will never make it past the first test hehehehehe... oh who am I kidding I so no good coming from these meetings for any peaceful negotiations.
 
So, do I have to basically back up Gavin all the time?

How did Diane AND Honore just sneak past the guards (located in EVERY hallway)?

Why doesn't Deston have guards in his room, where I put them? If they're standing outside the door, they should still hear the talking inside...
 
diane and Honore used the servant's quarters. Diane snuck in, and Honore basically acted like she belonged there. I've been in castles before, and teh walls and doors are thick. Hearing a conversation on the other end of the room wouldn't be easy.

And no, you don't have to back Gavin up all the time.
 
Well I'm just thinking out what I can do with Masako now. Other than simply find a place to crash for the night.
 
Well I didn't know where the guards were that 'escorted' Deston were so I just thought that they would be outside. But if you want you could have them posted in his room from now on. Sorry bout all of that Gamma.
 
Well, the problem with planning is knowing how to plan for them failing.

For example: It would be an extremely bad idea for Masako to arrange to have the cometesse' killed off. Technically speaking, they are not competition, but part of the same delegation. It'd be political suicide anyone in delegation if someone died. Delegations are often the safest place to be, because if someone dies...one, it's an 'international' incident. While the home country may consider it a favor that they can now go to war, the country in which it happened will blame the remaining members of the delegation for the exact reason you listed; because they are competition for political favor. Because, as in the example, they would blame Masako, her home country would have to either give her up to be punished by the country or be seen in favor of the dissent she caused, which could lead to war. No matter how easily countries do go to war, no one wants the blame for starting it.

Also to GH: The castles aren't as small as a lot of people assume. If you look like you know where you're going, and what you're doing, most people, even guards will assume you do, they can't keep track of where everyone is and is supposed to be going except in broad generalities. They don't have cellphones and the like, so word doesn't always travel fast when there's no reason for it to. It's when you act suspiciously that people have problems. Everyone in Anastaria already -knows- that the women of Goldspar are whores and the like, so they'd find it perfectly believable that one of the women had an assignation with a man, which is the only time a woman is allowed into the man's quarters, especially if she acted like she belonged there. All of this was implied or directly stated in my post.

Now, to go post.
 
Perhaps so but they can't seem to get along to even try to work together. Teh Goldsparite delegates are kind of all over the place as it stands right now. Maybe time will change that.
 
Oh, they don't -have- to work together, but if they colossally fuck up, such as an international incident, everyone in it that's living will be blamed. Often, being in a delegation was the safest place to be if you have a chaotic government. You're far away so you can do damage to the people in power that are actually there, but if anything goes wrong, you can be blamed.

Honestly, with Masako's personality, it's a historically accurate likely hood she was given the delegation job to keep her from being an annoyance/danger in the country, so they didn't have to worry about her trying her own coup or something. Nothing personally against your character, just with her abrasiveness.
 
Or it stands that she killed the original delegate and took the mantle as well...and is more or less around for her own personal gains. *rubs chin* always a possibility.

But as it stands now, making friends or at least allies would be beneficial.
 
That would be even more stupid.

For the most obvious reason being that being a delegate was not an honor, it was usually a punishment. You're away from court, you lose power and influence. That's why courtiers and lords spend over half their time in court. They can't afford not to. They can lose lands, titles everything, on a whim.

But if that's what you want to go for...
 
How about if you're a barbarian with little respect for that? Killing someone would get you more honor if they put up a good fight about it *laugh*
 
Barbarians don't inherit crowns and keep them for very long even if they conquer if they don't learn how to play the games the courts play. Even Genghis Khan was an admirable leader of his people. And you're the one who mentioned that they were in line for the throne. Yet, they're a delegate. That screams punishment.
 
Least mine makes sense. He's not "Old blood" and thus really isn't respected any more than his gold goes. He accepted it for his own reasons. They would give it to him because A) He's not all that important or necessarily in favor, and B) He's at least mildly familiar with most countries and customs.
 
temara, half of goldspar is in line for the throne according to the information provided.
 
No, it states that it is political upheaval. That generally means that only about three or four families are directly fighting for the throne. And the other power families support them. You have to have supporters or no one would be powerful enough to gain the throne let alone keep it. Almost every monarchy in existence is derived from less than five families throughout that countries history. It rarely changes out of those direct lines. And families tend to keep those with the more direct lines to the throne close by if they can, but it depends on who is in power. If they get too close to being too powerful that they might actually endanger their own claim, they try and get them away from court.
 
Temera's right. It's in political upheaval. Let's say that there are three royal families, all cousins. The family of Giselle is on the throne, but under constant political attack from the Jace and Razial families. The current queen is assassinated in a coup and Jace is on the throne. Alligences shift and those who supported Giselle and/or Razial are now trying to cover their asses until the next power shift. That kind of thing. Sorry if I didn't explain it right.
 
Mr. Skelace: Feel free to intercept Lord Martinez on his way back to his quarters, if you so wish.
 
Okay, heading to bed. I'll post in the morning.

Any questions regarding the game or your characters can be sent to me if you dont want it to be seen here. I don't mind answering any questions.
 
If the delegates are of no great import, how can their peace treaty be respected? What if the rulers of the countries don't like the terms that the delegates agreed to?

Also, if anyone can apparently go anywhere using the servants hallways, wouldn't it make sense that they are also patrolled?
 
Actually I think the point was they were of great import, in thier own way. However, it usually isn't the sort of people you want hanging around at home, plotting to take your throne. Just the nature of the political game. It's rare that a leader, or a prince, would be sent to a foreign land to negotiate a treaty. Usually they need to remain at home, consolidate power, watch over the court, manage thier kingdom and nobles. In order to interact you need your seconds and intermediaries. You pick people you think will follow your doctrine, or can be coerced to follow your doctrine. It's a good way to keep rivals in check by sending them off away from court, where they can't make a move for your crown. Sort of the same logic that made it so most second sons were sent off to monastaries. That said, you need to back your delegates and diplomats anyway. If you break the treaties that are signed, then the process breaks down. You save that sort of last resort for truly bad deals that you would never go with. Usually followed by executing the fool who signed it and replacing him with someone more in line with your policies. But it has to be pretty colossal, such as signing treaties which annex land and such. But why risk breaking down lines of communication over something minor like not exactly being happy with the tarriff situation or some minor consession?
 
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