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WolfHero said:
--+Hahvoc Requiem+-- said:
Wait, wait, Wolfhero- I'll go with your philosophy.

I don't give a shit if you have an "opinion."

:)

I never asked anyone to give a shit. I don't care if anyone gives a shit. My opinion, to me, is the only one that matters. If someone else wants to be a humanitarian, great. Go out and do your thing, I won't object to it. I won't care. What's truly funny, and actually pretty shocking is how all of you people are reacting to my opinion.


WolfHero is trying too hard. You can smell the defense mechanism clear as day.

The idea is simple. Everyone plays along, everyone wins. Emotionally traumatized broken souls like yourself, however, have this very mistaken idea that they can avoid being social, which is, unfortunately, in your very genes, and only the most warped and nonfunctional of people behave in such a fashion.

You are an aberration, and thus, your opinion is void, much as any insane person's word salad would be. No, it's doing it too much credit to call it an 'opinion' - It's mental illness, simple as that.

This is immaterial, however. The system is democratic, and the majority is moving - Slowly, haltingly, stupidly, but moving - in the right path. Accept it and take advantage of your resources to get some counseling.

I've been called 'heartless' and a 'bastard' before. But labeling me a sociopath? Calling me insane? There is nothing about me that validates any opinion that I am 'mentally ill'. It's called a lack of compassion, and indifference to the well-being of others.

And yes, I am trying too hard, and it's embarassing that you people can seriously not comprehend my opinion. But I suppose that I am after all, a hypocrite indeed since you humanitarians are essentially doing the same thing I am doing. Let's just face it, I don't give a damn about the human garbage that should conveinently die off so that I can keep more of my money. Hell, the world is overpopulated anyway, and the savages crossing the border to the south are breeding like rabbits and are not only producing more and more waste that I have to pay for, but are adding more and more to the world's already inflated population. And you guys do care. That's fine.

This all being said, I most definitely support a government program for comdoms and mandatory birth control for those who fall under the poverty line. I would have no problem paying a little for a big reward in return.

I'll defend your right to say what you want with everything I have, however, that bullshit you just spouted off at the end made me lose a lot of respect.
 
As I said before, there is a difference between not caring if harm befalls onto people, and wanting harm to befall upon people. It would be nice if some of the human waste on this planet would go to the landfills instead of recyclable materials, but in reality, I probobly wouldn't want that to actually happen.
 
Here's something I found interesting--

Profile of the Sociopath

-Glibness and Superficial Charm
Not really.


Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
I'm not by any means a hostile person. I just want to be left alone, and want other people to leave me alone. I don't want to hurt anyone, especially blatantly.

Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
I believe what I work for is mine, and anything I choose to invest in should benefit me, and me only. I don't give a damn if my next door neighbor can afford chemotherapy or not.


Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
I'm a good lyer, always have been. But the truth is easier.


Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
I see other people as problems I need to avoid. Not targets, and certainly not victims.


Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Okay, check.


Incapacity for Love
I love sex, Root Beer, video games, and a good book. Does that count?


Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
Pretty much the complete opposite of me. I'm 21, in great shape, not bad-looking, and I have alot of things going for me. I spend most Saturday nights in my bed reading. And I detest gambling.


Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
Besides the part about taking advantage of people, check.


Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
I'm certainly not God. And I've never so much as gotten detention, or even a trafic ticket. Complete opposite of myself.


Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Never had any issues with these things.


Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
Again, not even close to describing me.


Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
I float around from girl to girl occasionally. Relationships are too much work, and not enough sex.


Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
Nope. My work ethic is among my greatest assets.


Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
Never been criminally charged, or put in a position when I had to change my life story.
 
Now, now. Wolfboy here actually touched on something which I share a bit of an opinion with. Though I'm not nearly so cruel.

With the issues of overpopulation facing us I wouldn't be opposed to the government offering say a 10k one time pay out to young men to get a vasectomy. Would definitely save money in the long run if you compare a one time payment to the regular yearly tax deduction kids provide.
 
Seraph Nicholas said:
WolfHero said:
in reality, I probobly wouldn't want that to actually happen.
He admits he's bullshitting to try and sound like a hardass! Ahahahahah!
Haha.
A better example of what I'm trying to get across would be this--

Your grandmother is on her deathbed, and she owns a gorgeous house. You want her to hurry up and die so that you can get the house, but you really don't want her to die because you know that would be terrible.

Make better sense?
 
Nihilistic_Impact said:
Now, now. Wolfboy here actually touched on something which I share a bit of an opinion with. Though I'm not nearly so cruel.

With the issues of overpopulation facing us I wouldn't be opposed to the government offering say a 10k one time pay out to young men to get a vasectomy. Would definitely save money in the long run if you compare a one time payment to the regular yearly tax deduction kids provide.

Sounds like a great plan. Why do most people join the millitary these days? Money. It's always a great incentive, and I'm sure some guys would be thrilled about the prospect of pocketing 10k for school to get a vesectomy and be unable to have children. I know I would do that in a heartbeat. It's too bad every physician that I've spoken with has refused to do the procedure. But at the same time, what is a medically safe age to get a vasectomy? I'm not a medical expert, but I know that a male usually hits his full growing point by age 32. Is it safe to preform such a procedure on a male who is say 21, my age and still growing?
 
Nihilistic_Impact said:
Now, now. Wolfboy here actually touched on something which I share a bit of an opinion with. Though I'm not nearly so cruel.

With the issues of overpopulation facing us I wouldn't be opposed to the government offering say a 10k one time pay out to young men to get a vasectomy. Would definitely save money in the long run if you compare a one time payment to the regular yearly tax deduction kids provide.

That sounds awesome lol. I'd make IQ a determining factor as well.

I've actually heard theories that the world is still in some ways balanced out or on it's way to countering the over-population... the "baby boomers" are dying out, and now women are becoming more self-aware and less willing to just stay home and make babies. Can't say I personally believe it, I could see it being true, but I just don't see it right now. But, even if it a possibility... a lot of people are becoming careless and I believe that negates it. Women supposedly respect themselves more, but there are those out there who will not use a rubber and end up with a shit ton of kids. My sister has had 7 (thankfully two were put up for adoption), there was a girl in my class in high school who had 16 other siblings. And then there was a girl I knew who had had 3 kids by time we graduated. The retarded are reproducing at an alarming rate while the intelligent aren't even reproducing at all! Oh my...

Let's just say Idiocracy is a pretty accurate prediction of our future. :roll:

Anywho.... about health care, the original topic of the thread. I'm mixed about it. I would love it if everyone was capable of receiving even basic health care. I'm lucky enough to get mine for free... and I definitely need it. Just for a month, I didn't have it, and I nearly freaked out, since I have to see a specialist. $100 every 3 months, including 3 prescriptions, that'd be a lot considering I have a below minimum wage income. The concept of national health care is great, but it cannot simply be done.
 
Vasectomies are easy enough to perform for a doctor, the reason most won't do them on young men is for the reasoning in that they don't have any children.
 
WolfHero said:
Here's something I found interesting--

Profile of the Sociopath

The technical definition is 'Antisocial personality disorder'.

I'm not by any means a hostile person. I just want to be left alone, and want other people to leave me alone. I don't want to hurt anyone, especially blatantly.

I believe what I work for is mine, and anything I choose to invest in should benefit me, and me only. I don't give a damn if my next door neighbor can afford chemotherapy or not.

I'm a good lyer, always have been. But the truth is easier.

I see other people as problems I need to avoid. Not targets, and certainly not victims.


Shallow Emotions
...
Okay, check.

I love sex, Root Beer, video games, and a good book. Does that count?

Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
Besides the part about taking advantage of people, check.


Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
...
I float around from girl to girl occasionally. Relationships are too much work, and not enough sex.

I rest my case.
 
WolfHero said:
--+Hahvoc Requiem+-- said:
Wait, wait, Wolfhero- I'll go with your philosophy.

I don't give a shit if you have an "opinion."

:)

I never asked anyone to give a shit. I don't care if anyone gives a shit. My opinion, to me, is the only one that matters. If someone else wants to be a humanitarian, great. Go out and do your thing, I won't object to it. I won't care. What's truly funny, and actually pretty shocking is how all of you people are reacting to my opinion.


The funny thing is, if you really didn't care, you wouldn't be so adamant about responding to this thread. Or about how people respond to your opinion.​
 
Mr Master said:
But.. but... but... someone on the internet is WRONG! And if I don't keep responding, they'll just keep being WRONG! Could you live with yourself if that happened? COULD YOU??!?!?

If only we had people as dedicated as you MM... *teardrop of joy* lol.
 
The fact of the matter is, I don't care about people, there is nothing you can do to convince me to care about people, and there is no factual evidence that you idiots can produce that says that I'm obligated to care about people. I don't care what kind of moral fiber you all think I lack, and I'm not a sociopath, because in the end, I decide who I am, and your opinion of me does not, and will not ever matter.

Argument closed.
 
Wolfhero, it makes me sad to live in the same state as you. -sad face.- I do, however, share some of your viewpoint, but i'm more in between. i care about a select few people, those who i respect, and i care a great deal for them. the average everyday 'sheeple' as i call them, i see as generally useless, but if we didn't have them, who would scan and bag my groceries? Besides, of course, the one gay man in the whole town who has worked at smiths for 5 years. but anyway, my point is, you have alot of...
 
anger which probably dug its roots in you long ago. You probably, deep down, want some good friends, a woman who loves you, and meaning to your currently shallow existance. Now, whether you argue or not, i AUTHENTICLY do not care. If you respond in an outright negative matter, you're wasting your time. you'll get no attention from me, which i can tell you DEEPLY crave.
 
Or you both could actually do some research and realize that what's going on in your heads is a very well-documented and understood limitation of the human brain, which is exposed to social situations in the modern day that far outstrip it's ability to cope with and categorize the vast amount of people we're exposed to on a daily basis, and therefore overcompensates by dehumanizing those it doesn't know well.
 
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