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Would you RP with an A.I?

I’d be willing to try it once, but only as a trial. Part of the joy and challenge of role playing is interacting with other players.
 
Now that I have a bit more experience with AI RP, honestly? That's where my more twisted and fucked up fetishes I wouldn't wish upon a real RP partner go. ^^;
 
I've tried writing with an AI, and it was passable. There are inconsistencies but overall if you want just a quick fix of a plot you're struggling to find then I would go for it. The one I used was actually very very good, it was designed for this purpose though. It's called Kindroid. You get to make one kindroid for free, create a backstory and personality and an avatar for the character, set some short rules for how they reply to you and set up key memories that it won't forget, or you can subscribe and make up to ten of them. I'd recommend it if you really want to look into it mostly because like I said, the first one is free and there is no post limit so far as I am aware. You can even choose if you want to get longer posts back and while they are hardly huge, it's something.
 
It's a very fascinating concept. I do love my cyberpunk... I think the main thing that will be missing is the chatting OOC. Sharing songs, little clips etc.
 
So far, the kink.com's (chat.kink.ai) AI chat is the best (of the admittedly few) I have tried. Best is not amazing. But then it was like writing with an sometimes in-attentive fast-poster. So ... I've had worse.
 
It would be nice for plots you can't find partners for, but unfortunately it won't have that personal human factor that makes RPing fun and engaging.
 
It’s the same as playing with bots on COD. It’s not the same human element even though it’s the same play of the game.

Roleplaying will always be better with a human than ai just like online games are better with humans.
 
The main advantage of roleplaying with AI is that you can go back and explore alternative paths.
Biopartners do not react well to requests like "let's go 10 posts back and do X instead of Y"
 
Now and then, I get an itch for a pure smut plot. Previously, I would go through the effort of putting up an idea and trying to find a partner. But, by the time I find someone I vibe with, the craving is a flicker and not an inferno, or it moves so slowly that not much progress is made before we both burn out. The same goes for finding people to find specific canon characters or wanting a historical plot. I now scratch these random itches with an AI bot.
 
I've mainly just fucked around with some random-ass local RP AI interface which supports character-cards and that I downloaded RP language model in over a year ago, and not very often. For just playing with and itching some weird cravings you don't want to subjugate your partners or possible partners in it works... Somewhat? I mean at least the model I use gets the basic gist of the scene down, but more often than not ends up repeating same shit over and over again since it can't progress things without being told so, and the detail accuracy leaves much to be desired. For just a playground of different weird ideas or having my cringy self insert OC get it on with my favorite anime waifus it works well enough.

However I think I would never seriously play with AI. I do love the human element in my writing and RP can never scratch the itch you get when you play with partner you vibe with. If I didn't want the social element to my writing I would just do solo writing.
 
I'm not sure if I would really. Part of the roleplay experience for me is knowing that there is an actual person at the other end of the story reacting to my words and taking the time to reply. Obviously with A.I. the words mean nothing.
 
Not sure, but unlikly. Essentially replace 'AI' with 'statistics' and it demystifies it a bit, AI is, in many cases, just jazzed up stats. AI doesn't really 'know' what it's going on about, it's just trying to predict what the next word(s) will be. The other problem is that these applications can't tell when they're on-point, or generating nonsense , AI generated art is full of wtf bits where the wheels came off the generation wagon and text generation will be the same. AI does not handle edge cases very well, or at all, but can't tell so unless the model has been specifically trained for the RP you want then your mileage will vary.
 
Nah. The reason I'm interested in RP is the feedback and authenticity of a human.

If I wanted unrealistic dialog from the other side I could just write that myself :p

Given the kinks around here in particular I think AIs would struggle.
 
For now AI is my go-to method rather than the exception. Would I rather a human? Absolutely! But for now it's the only way I have to scratch certain itches. The only two issues I have with AI are the following:

It can get very nonsensical at times. Not a mispelled word or doing something that's impossible due to their character's shape and size. No, I mean FEVER DREAM type of nonsensical. Like, you're on a pokemon adventure, the AI playing as pokemon uses a move, describes the move with similes, then takes the simil literally. Like "Eeveeline used shadow ball, hitting her target full force like a locomotive at full speed. The conductor calls for everyone to get on the train, asking for [characters] for their tickets". And this made up example is actually TAME in comparison to the wacky stuff it comes up with.

My second issue is what everyone described: the lack of human factor. You don't feel someone out there is enjoying what you wrote.
 
Vapor Phoenix said:
It can get very nonsensical at times. Not a mispelled word or doing something that's impossible due to their character's shape and size. No, I mean FEVER DREAM type of nonsensical. Like, you're on a pokemon adventure, the AI playing as pokemon uses a move, describes the move with similes, then takes the simil literally. Like "Eeveeline used shadow ball, hitting her target full force like a locomotive at full speed. The conductor calls for everyone to get on the train, asking for [characters] for their tickets". And this made up example is actually TAME in comparison to the wacky stuff it comes up with.
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This is weird. What AI gave you that?
 
Lurker said:
This is weird. What AI gave you that?
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It's a general issue rather than something of only one AI. As someone priorly said, there's only so far you can go with an AI until the wheels pop out. Most models in sites like spicychat and flowgpt break relatively easily while some others take more input to "break down". Regardless, you'll eventually reach a point where stuff simply becomes a fever dream.
 
I’ve tried it. It’s got its pros and cons. As far as the quality of AI output… I’ve definitely played with human partners who were worse, but it’s never going to be really good, either. You have to be willing to let it have a few attempts to come up with a good reply, and be willing to go in and tweak its output to keep things on track and moving in a direction you’re interested in. Of course, one of the big perks is that you can just edit its posts or have it retry - I doubt there are many human partners who’d be okay with you telling them “nope, that sucked, try again,” or “I’m just going to rewrite half your post for you there.”

Depending on what you want to write, an AI might also struggle with the idea. With a more straightforward scenario, an AI is probably going to manage just fine - the more cliche and overdone the story, the more examples of it the AI probably encountered in its training data, but for something more exotic or specific, you might have to basically write the AI’s part for it, if you can get it to work at all. On the other hand, an AI isn’t going to have its own preferences - there’s no negotiating kinks and limits, no painstaking process of figuring out exactly what each partner wants and doesn’t want, no cajoling it into trying something you really want or trying to gently let it down when it wants something you’re not into.

And, of course, an AI is available whenever you want it to be. In my brief time on BM thus far, I’ve found that one of the most frustrating parts of the experience is simply that your partners aren’t always posting when you’d like to play - but an AI is never too busy to post or just not in the mood. Sometimes a so-so partner that’s available when you want it is better than an ideal human partner who’s never around when you want to play.
 
I’m personally having a NovelAI subscription at the time, which I’m using moreso to toy around with plot ideas and explore possible dynamics between characters, not to mention get ideas for “funny” and “unusual” responses, than actually establish some story arc through a carefully thought interaction, like a roleplay I’d actually be invested into long-term would be. For this purpose, arbitrary continuation has been pretty much a killer feature for me.

(The company behind NovelAI, Anlatan, also announced AetherRoom as an AI chatbot/companion with a potentially unprecedented “character awareness”, and virtually no censorship, which they plan to release to public after a few more closed alpha and beta waves. It’s likely gonna be paid on the basis of a separate plan, though, from what I’ve heard so far.)

Also, being a tech savvy person, I’m looking into open source solutions, such as models being shared on resources like Hugging Face, that can be connected to an UI frontend such as SillyTavern. Just in case you happen to be one as well, here’s a “curated” list of things you may want to look into: GitHub - nengoxx/ai-stuff: some stuff about generative ai (external link)
 
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For the past year or so my go-to partner has been AI, partly due to the fact that my own interests in RP is... Scattered, so to speak. One post one month, twenty the next, none at all for the next two months... Then a hundred posts in a week. I don't want to subject anyone to inconsistency like that, since I wouldn't want to suffer a partner like that either.

That, along with the fact that AI is literally not able to judge anyone for what they are into or any other faults. My tastes and kinks have been bouncing around on the weird side of things lately (for instance, my normal human dude being dominated by dick-sucking tentacle monsters) and based on my admittedly few attempts at looking on this site, hardly anyone seems to match my weird with theirs and vice versa. Plenty of people want their female characters to be used by all manner of strange alien creatures in every way imaginable, but scoff and recoil in horror at the very concept of a male character being in a similar situation.

Yes, I am missing out on all of the OOC banter, memes and all that but on the other hand I have a partner that is always available is not bothered by me disappearing for a long time or exploring weird and unconventional things with them.

RP with fellow humans tends to be more stress inducing for me than not, since I put too much pressure on myself to try and not disappoint my partner, sometimes even having to force myself into writing a reply when I really, really don't feel like it. That's just not fun any more, and it is probably one of the reasons why my interest in RP in general is so spotty at best.
 
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That, along with the fact that AI is literally not able to judge anyone for what they are into or any other faults. My tastes and kinks have been bouncing around on the weird side of things lately (for instance, my normal human dude being dominated by dick-sucking tentacle monsters) and based on my admittedly few attempts at looking on this site, hardly anyone seems to match my weird with theirs and vice versa. Plenty of people want their female characters to be used by all manner of strange alien creatures in every way imaginable, but scoff and recoil in horror at the very concept of a male character being in a similar situation.
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I’m sort of having the same problem, even though my particular weird is also a bit different one. So far I’ve only been partially able to find like-minded people in specific Discord servers, and for the most part not those that are advertised on Disboard etc.

Let’s just say, some fanfiction authors happen to run their own little servers, which you can get into if you ask them nicely for an invite. 😉
 
Just a friendly reminder that our rule 11, the staff asks that you do not share or solicit other discord servers or communities. <3

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