Feelings on using AI to spruce up story telling?

[Zubaida]

I have no nice way to put my disagreement with you, so I will just say elitest drival like this will kill any hobby in existence.

What hobby? The AI is writing, not you, So unless I offend the 010110 your point is moot at best.

 

[SavageBunny]

I find these additions massively useful, and find it narrowminded how dismissive people are who seem to believe all instances of AI is a plague on humanity.

I do actually think, that LLMs have some good uses. But I think a lot of people grossly overestimate what they are actually capable of. And I'm very dubious about their use in anything that requires creativity and understanding things, which they are technically (meaning "due to the way the technology works") incapable of.

I think we're getting slightly off-topic and a bit worked up, so I personally will tap out here, get some fresh air and would recommend that to everyone else here.

 

[Arclight1988]

How do I feel about AI?
The short version is that I hope that the people using it continue to be open about that, so that I can absolutely refuse to ever engage with them in any creative capacity.

If I wanted to write with machine-generated responses based on other writer's stolen work, I'd do that. After punching myself.
It's destroying the planet, which infuriates me as much as the plagiarism.

I would take a partner using AI in any way as a personal insult that I would not forgive, and would place that disclaimer very openly at the head of any prompt I set out (if I ever end up doing that again).

I write because writing makes me feel alive. I write because it is my joy. It is how I connect with other people. I put huge amounts of heart and effort into my work. Every visceral, deep human connection that I have made in my entire adult life has been via the medium of this kind of creation. Writing is what I live for. It's where my passion lies. At the absolute, essential core of that passion is the human being. The person. The unfettered connection. Mind to mind.

The advent of AI and, specifically, the laser-pointed precision with which it has targeted the theft and automation of the arts galls me in ways I cannot articulate. It is offensive to human consciousness. It is a crime without a court to bring it to heel. It wounds my goddamned soul.

So, no. I won't accept it, and when it comes to anything created with me as a party, I absolutely, flat out will not tolerate it. I won't even do public threads because I don't want my voice and patterns scraped to make some sociopath CEO richer while they merrily play the game of eroding our rights and our futures.

I have been unhappy about this topic for some time and I do at least have to say that the number of responses with the same feeling (if, ah, not my unhinged level of passion) buoys my flagging spirit somewhat.

Bah. If you can't write without AI, then you can't keep up with me anyway.

Yeah I can understand this feeling, you believe human thought is sacred, and is somehow blessed by the powers that be in some unique way so I could see why you think that way, and to be fair its one reason I am open to my use of it.

However from print, to radio, to television, to youtube, and fan fiction these cases have been made. As if the person who is using these mediums does not get what they want from what they consume, and how they consume it.

The dismisiveness will always be a thing, by people who wish to ban the tech they dont like or dont understand that benefits, and evolution of tech will always be riddled with these and nore ethical questions.

 

[Solo]

Destroying the environment because I'm too lazy to use Google, ayyyy 420 blaze it.

No, but for real— in my own opinion, anyone who can't, won't, or doesn't write without using AI is just a lazy, bad writer. If people want to choose to be lazy and bad, that's their prerogative, but I'm certainly not going to waste my time writing with anyone who can't come up with their own ideas.

But I think OP just wants to circlejerk and fanboy about AI, so I don't really think that any of us stating our opinion will be met with anything but more ChatGPT-level drivel.

 

[Arclight1988]

I do actually think, that LLMs have some good uses. But I think a lot of people grossly overestimate what they are actually capable of. And I'm very dubious about their use in anything that requires creativity and understanding things, which they are technically (meaning "due to the way the technology works") incapable of.

I think we're getting slightly off-topic and a bit worked up, so I personally will tap out here, get some fresh air and would recommend that to everyone else here.

Thanks for your point of view, I really am interested in different takes, and how people get to them! ^_^

 

[Zubaida]

I do actually think, that LLMs have some good uses. But I think a lot of people grossly overestimate what they are actually capable of. And I'm very dubious about their use in anything that requires creativity and understanding things, which they are technically (meaning "due to the way the technology works") incapable of.

I think we're getting slightly off-topic and a bit worked up, so I personally will tap out here, get some fresh air and would recommend that to everyone else here.

I'm not worked up. I'm just being blunt and direct. And I agree, it's debatable what, if any, use they have. My point still stands. If you're fine with rping with AI, why even have the useless third wheel? Just go straight to the source and go at your own pace. It seems silly to include a middle man that may bog things down, ghost, create issues etc. The AI won't do much of that, so my point stands.

 

[Arclight1988]

Destroying the environment because I'm too lazy to use Google, ayyyy 420 blaze it.

No, but for real— in my own opinion, anyone who can't, won't, or doesn't write without using AI is just a lazy, bad writer. If people want to choose to be lazy and bad, that's their prerogative, but I'm certainly not going to waste my time writing with anyone who can't come up with their own ideas.

But I think OP just wants to circlejerk and fanboy about AI, so I don't really think that any of us stating our opinion will be met with anything but more ChatGPT-level drivel.

AI will either improve and become way more efficent than current issues or fall to the way side.

More elitism instead of an argument that is not the same as using an AI to springboard is bad, using an established IP to springboard is fine. Without any real reasoned opinion as to why one is bad and the other is good.

Then of course accusing another of bad faith with an insult I wonder why I dont take your criticism well. Must be I am just unreasonable.

 

[Zubaida]

AI will either improve and become way more efficent than current issues or fall to the way side.

More elitism instead of an argument that is not the same as using an AI to springboard is bad, using an established IP to springboard is fine. Without any real reasoned opinion as to why one is bad and the other is good.

Then of course accusing another of bad faith with an insult I wonder why I dont take your criticism well. Must be I am just unreasonable.

If being an elitist pushes out those who use AI from the hobby for writing, so be it. We should all strive for it and encourage it. Whats next? Should we allow aim bots in video games because it enhances your experience?

 

[SavageBunny]

Maybe this whole discussion could benefit, if everyone involved wouldn't assume that:

a) everyone with a strong negative opinion about AI is a technophobic luddite
or
b) everyone who has a positive opinion about it is a talentless, lazy Elon-Fanboy.

Now I'm out, this is giving me a headache.

 

[Solo]

AI will either improve and become way more efficent than current issues or fall to the way side.

AI is currently assisting in the destruction of the planet, and if it continues developing, especially under current direction, it will only get worse. With the US being a global leader of AI usage and environmental justice programs are being terminated left and right under the current administration, doesn't really look great.

But hey, what's a well-sourced argument when I've got you sitting there going 'well akshually, nuh-uh because nuh-uh' to anything you don't personally agree with?

More elitism instead of an argument that is not the same as using an AI to springboard is bad, using an established IP to springboard is fine. Without any real reasoned opinion as to why one is bad and the other is good.

I am genuinely amazed that a comparison this unrelated is what you chose as one of your points, but I really should know better by now than to expect logic from these kinds of topics. If you do not understand how a real human being using already established settings and characters to write their own original works is different from using a computer to do the work for you and spitting a sad, error-riddled excuse for a post back at an unknowing partner that is engaging with you on good faith, there is nothing anyone can say to get through to you.

Then of course accusing another of bad faith with an insult I wonder why I dont take your criticism well. Must be I am just unreasonable.

If you see what I said as an insult rather than my opinion on the topic you asked others to weigh in on, that is your own interpretation. But it doesn't really shock me that someone who uses AI to write their replies would lack reading comprehension.

 

[Arclight1988]

If being an elitest pushes out those who use AI from the hobby for writing, so be it. We should all strive for it and encourage it. Whats next? Should we allow aim bots in video games because it enhances your experience?

Just because you do not have the creativity to use something beyond plug statement into box and copy does not mean the rest of us can not do more with what we are given.

Your argument is basically we shouldnt use calculators, we have abacuses. Seeing as Aimbots take all player agency out of playing the game its a different thing.

Now I know you are smart enough to know calculators are not necessary you can do it by hand or in your head if able to hold numbers well enough, but why spend an hour writing out a complex equation when a calculator can do so faster.

I can use a prompt window to have an AI evaluate a writing example i've done and break it down as a teacher grading an assignment, how many new writers are going to find a medium they can practice with, and will give instant feedback so they can improve?

 

[Zubaida]

Just because you do not have the creativity to use something beyond plug statement into box and copy does not mean the rest of us can not do more with what we are given.

Your argument is basically we shouldnt use calculators, we have abacuses. Seeing as Aimbots take all player agency out of playing the game its a different thing.

Now I know you are smart enough to know calculators are not necessary you can do it by hand or in your head if able to hold numbers well enough, but why spend an hour writing out a complex equation when a calculator can do so faster.

I can use a prompt window to have an AI evaluate a writing example i've done and break it down as a teacher grading an assignment, how many new writers are going to find a medium they can practice with, and will give instant feedback so they can improve?

Poor delusional man. You're reading comprehension is lacking. I see why you need the AI. I said there are negative trade-offs. However, critical thinking isn't one we should sacrifice. You're living proof of this fact. You lack reading comprehension, inferential power, and deductive reasoning, and your entire counterplay stems from branding those who disagree, regardless of the language or approach, as elitist snobs.

 

[Arclight1988]

AI is currently assisting in the destruction of the planet, and if it continues developing, especially under current direction, it will only get worse. With the US being a global leader of AI usage and environmental justice programs are being terminated left and right under the current administration, doesn't really look great.

But hey, what's a well-sourced argument when I've got you sitting there going 'well akshually, nuh-uh because nuh-uh' to anything you don't personally agree with?



I am genuinely amazed that a comparison this unrelated is what you chose as one of your points, but I really should know better by now than to expect logic from these kinds of topics. If you do not understand how a real human being using already established settings and characters to write their own original works is different from using a computer to do the work for you and spitting a sad, error-riddled excuse for a post back at an unknowing partner that is engaging with you on good faith, there is nothing anyone can say to get through to you.



If you see what I said as an insult rather than my opinion on the topic you asked others to weigh in on, that is your own interpretation. But it doesn't really shock me that someone who uses AI to write their replies would lack reading comprehension.

Yes refering to someones opinion that are not the same as yours as a circle jerk for ai is not at all meant as an insult dont know how I confused that.

As for the arguments for the enviromental impact, ive read them, and having done my own research I wont know if your argument is good or not till I see the tech wheel evolve. We as humans screw this up all the time, and you cant stop what the powers that be decide are good for the masses, Ive fought this battle with people that still scream how good electic cars are for the enviroment.

There is a chance with advancements in the field the concerns over consumption of power and processing components will be offset by tech, but nothing I do will change it for or against, I am working with what I am given.

You hold the human mind to more sanctity than I do, you are dismissive, and dont really seem to understand the other side of your argument, so at that we can dust disagree.

 

[Carpe Diem]

OP, you threw the first stone by calling people who disagree with you elitists. I don't believe in name-calling when it comes to disagreements, but I think you miiiight be getting a bit too heated over this argument.

 

[Arclight1988]

Poor delusional man. You're reading comprehension is lacking. I see why you need the AI. I said there are negative trade-offs. However, critical thinking isn't one we should sacrifice. You're living proof of this fact. You lack reading comprehension, inferential power, and deductive reasoning, and your entire counterplay stems from branding those who disagree, regardless of the language or approach, as elitist snobs.

If your point of view is you do anything in a way I do not approve of I will use insults and hope that will make you see things my way what would you call that.

It would not be a discussion, and I would not be who I am if every time someone disagrees with me I just nodded my head and agreed with the other side.

I view the dismissive attitudes as elitiest, but not as an insult, all hobbies will have purests that if you do not follow their view you are doing it wrong. I have seen it destroy many hobbies I love, and as writing pools shrink I am often looking at ways to encourage practices for people who want to get into a hobby.

Your view to suggestions are to dismiss and insult instead of saying why you feel that way. The only argument ive seen that I just cant argue against is somehow human thought is this unique thing, and if you read aladdin, and create a thief character based on it that is perfectly fine, but if you type into an AI traits common for thief and make a theif character you are somehow violating any form of independent thought.

 

[Arclight1988]

OP, you threw the first stone by calling people who disagree with you elitists. I don't believe in name-calling when it comes to disagreements, but I think you miiiight be getting a bit too heated over this argument.

I called the other poster an elitest after they claimed any use of AI proves one to be unimaginative and should quit the hobby. If you feel that way, I can understand it however I am not heated. I am just trying to pull out why other people feel the way they do, if I am comming across aggressive thats not my intent.

 

[Solo]

As for the arguments for the enviromental impact, ive read them, and having done my own research I wont know if your argument is good or not till I see the tech wheel evolve. We as humans screw this up all the time, and you cant stop what the powers that be decide are good for the masses, Ive fought this battle with people that still scream how good electic cars are for the enviroment.

What research is that, per se? Want to link me so I can take a look at an opposing view? Want to explain your post a little bit better than a crunchymom on Facebook defending why they don't vaccinate their children?

I'll wait.

There is a chance with advancements in the field the concerns over consumption of power and processing components will be offset by tech, but nothing I do will change it for or against, I am working with what I am given.

Show me proof of that. Show me any step that has been made in that direction and I'll at least admit that this specific statement has merit.

"Working with what you are given", AKA contributing to the destruction of the planet we all live on because you're too busy and important to perform a perfunctory Google search. Right.

You hold the human mind to more sanctity than I do, you are dismissive, and dont really seem to understand the other side of your argument, so at that we can dust disagree.

What other side of my argument? My argument, in two points, is a) AI is awful for the environment, b) using it to save you 30 seconds on Google searching the definition of a word is lazy, and c) a writer who relies on AI to come up with ideas instead of simply thinking of ideas themselves is a lazy, bad writer. Those are both things that I believe, and things that I fully understand, as I've shown with an actual sourced argument for the one point that is a fact.

I am dismissive of people who sit there and say nothing while thinking they're saying everything on a topic, especially when ten people have come into this thread to tell you why they disagree with you and you view their disagreement as elitism. It's not. It's the people who think using AI to write is shit telling you that they think using AI to write is shit and why.

Thanks for the entertainment on a boring Wednesday. I'll return to spending my time more productively.

 

[Arclight1988]

What research is that, per se? Want to link me so I can take a look at an opposing view? Want to explain your post a little bit better than a crunchymom on Facebook defending why they don't vaccinate their children?

I'll wait.

Show me proof of that. Show me any step that has been made in that direction and I'll at least admit that this specific statement has merit.

"Working with what you are given", AKA contributing to the destruction of the planet we all live on because you're too busy and important to perform a perfunctory Google search. Right.

What other side of my argument? My argument, in two points, is a) AI is awful for the environment, b) using it to save you 30 seconds on Google searching the definition of a word is lazy, and c) a writer who relies on AI to come up with ideas instead of simply thinking of ideas themselves is a lazy, bad writer. Those are both things that I believe, and things that I fully understand, as I've shown with an actual sourced argument for the one point that is a fact.

I am dismissive of people who sit there and say nothing while thinking they're saying everything on a topic, especially when ten people have come into this thread to tell you why they disagree with you and you view their disagreement as elitism. It's not. It's the people who think using AI to write is shit telling you that they think using AI to write is shit and why.

Thanks for the entertainment on a boring Wednesday. I'll return to spending my time more productively.

If you want to winge about the enviromental impacts of tech you can create your own thread and make that the key point, I conceid in part to your argument, but believe the advantages that AI can be used for and evolutions in tech will likely outweigh the costs. Agree or disagree thats as far as that argument is going with me. You can disreguard me if you want, but AI wont go away if public does not use it, and trust me that cat is out of the bag.

The argument that reading of a character in a book, and basing a character off the one in the book. Is not a problem, but reading writing propt ideas from an AI and creating a character with those ideas in mind are somehow so vastly different one must be shunned entirely. Your argument against this is somehow blantently obvious... okay then guess there is not much their to go on.

I am sorry that argument which is repeatedly made is like watching a line of people climb down a ravine, and up the other side, and then watching everyone complain that I used a bridge, and this side looks so much better if you did all the climbing.

 

[Red-Scarlet]

Where has AI made advancements that meaningfully improved quality of life or anything like that?

 

[Lockdown]

So I really like AI, and while I know that alone can earn me some disapproving stares anyone else tinker with it to give them either better ideas or help describing a setting so you don't feel like your always comming up with the setting alone?

I am even finding making NPCs to interact with main characters much more enjoyable when they are not tailor made, and sometimes made specifically to be able to harass or trouble the main characters of a story.

This allows me to have a story of my own which is increadibly dangerous for me, but if your partner is learning or likewise not good at putting forth ideas it can add more excitement.

I would like to hear people thoughts on this, maybe questions from those interested in it, but never tried. Or even suggestions of things that have had good effects.

My first real use I created a whole legend, story arc, and great first adventure in two questions and not only did I get a more alive town, but it was fun reading a story I only gave a few pointers to flush out which I felt was a win win!

I’ll just be commenting on the premise and first post of this thread.

I don’t like or use AI in my stories. I only incidentally use AI for images when I later realize I might’ve chosen an AI image. But if it’s the only image I can find then I’ll use it. As far as writing goes. I question why even write with a partner if your post is going to be completely AI generated? Might as well roleplay with the machine than another human. Or read a book since at that point you want to entertained by a story and not really write.

I can somewhat see a reason for using AI to get ideas, but I do that by listening/reading to various other works or use my real life experiences to do that anyways. If you use AI to generate story arcs, describing a setting, or even creating characters then that’s killing half the fun of writing. Again, you’re better off being a reader since all of that is already there for you. NPC’s are also some of my favorite parts of the story. They don’t have to be annoying. NPC’s make the world feel alive and could add some depth to let the reader/writer know that, although they’re the main character, their actions can have consequences.

If one of my partners used AI for their post(s). I would talk to them and discuss why we should continue this story any further when I’m pretty much writing with a machine while you write with a human. If AI was partially used then I’ll be pensive wondering what else will be AI generated in the future. I feel like the only redeemable AI use for me is images because, let’s be honest, searching for the right image is so god damn difficult sometimes and you might not know at first glance.

But that’s just my two cents

 

[Revelations]

Hey hey - Staff have been relatively hands off with this thread but It's starting to get a bit steamed. I think if you're getting a bit too heated in the argument you might be better off taking a step back and taking a bit of a breather before hitting 'Post reply' again.

I'm not looking to lock the thread but if I have to it'll be for a forced cooldown period. I'd really rather not do that as I feel AI in the RP space is something worth discussing whether one likes it or not - I admit I err to the 'Don't like it' side, and would rather not see it used.

 

[CasualVelociraptor]

I was about to write something in an RP that I’m really enjoying the story but have put that on hold until tomorrow, but this debate has blown up my inbox.

You have awoken the dinosaur of the forum, and I’m here to restore civility here. The Trump administration has aged this transgender nonbinary federal employee so please be nice. I’m wondering when this forum became a place to be steamed with each other. I’m annoyed.

I have used AI generated images on this for easy characters in a roleplay tor free sometimes and one time to create because the process of selecting images is annoying. But having written original, brain-grown words and it seems well received writing on here for six years, I would say this to end the debate in favor of humanity in writing once and for all, without any criticism of anybody, so everyone will please listen to the CasualVelociraptor as I end the nonsense.

If you cannot feel like you can express yourself in any way to anyone in your real life, writing is the ultimate escape. Because guess what everyone? They said I would never be independent due to my autism. And I could never tell the truth about what my ABA paraprofessional did to me because my parents wouldn’t believe. Nothing sexual but I had to go out to dinners with her to learn how to eat out which like…every Friday! Less time with my girlfriend. And then she’d criticize me constantly. Then I’d embarrass myself but she loved me like an aunt so much or so I thought. She also talked of us hitting the road and writing re

I tended to write for longer on tests because I ended up needing extended time to do my introduction which was just perfect. I did four years of college after getting freshman forgiveness in 2010 because I got mononucleosis despite getting to kiss no one until one year into my girlfriend’s and then for six years wife (2017-2023) due to her weird-ass Baha’i religion. She carried her snappishness towards me a lot and I ended up taking it on the chin, and writing here helped when she refused fo touch me, so I am definitely a writer standing against tbe use of AI.

My writing however has spoken volumes, will and I have a human artist commissioned front cover (I’m getting her permission as a human being for her Discord to be featured by me but her art would make amazing characters commissioned images for not much money).



I'm also going to upgrade my map with a commission but this I traced on top of a fantasy map generator



These are all just static images I drew on and annotated so hopefully they convey a new power when edited in my writing and enhanced by a mapmaker who gets paid tor it. All originality in The Wind Empress, you have my solemn vow!

Why, then, have we surrendered the one thing that makes humans humans- our creative voices? Our intentions which machines must never have? Or they will outthink and control all our devices. But a global data apocalypse would not be the least of worries in the event of AGI in like ten years. But I’m off topic.

Want a language model? Your own past writing. Past writing can really make for great material with the right inspiration, so The Wind Empress Darkblight is my human voice giving back to all of you with an incredibly original steampunk fantasy setting based on everything from Napoleonic history to what if Mali’a Empire with a magic-proof canal thar is merged with tribes called Asami Savannah tribes who are based on Zulu names; there will be 14 of them and I will be running.

My future son turns 9 tonight. I can only hold him in my dreams. My priorities will change but I hope that The Wind Empress Dsrkblight will be something special in 2026. And now I hope we can all remain calm, just like Casual.

 

[Arclight1988]

So the argument is back to I dont like AI, its not the same as a human. Without why other than, a nebulous feeling.

if your argument is their are communities out there that can help you. You are not wrong, but not everyone has it in them to reach out to others until they build their resolve. The argument of I could do it, anybody should never flies.

I did a thing without AI, so its useless is also not a real argument.

it does not really matter to me, I guess any point of arguing for it die on people getting an icky feeling towards it.

Its not new for me to like something before it becomes popular, and this will be no different only clearly anyone who uses AI will end up never admitting to others its use, seeing as you will simply be treated like a bastard child of old cause people will just assune you are pasting only what AI spits out.

So instead of guilding new people to use a tool in a better more accepted way by the community, you will get people doing nothing of use with it and reinforcing the same negative views.

I guess I will bow out, and just see in ten years how things have changed.

 

[Aleksandr]

Personally, the closest I've used AI for storytelling has been for characters meant for TTRPGs (D&D, Pathfinder, etc etc). Usually it's prodding AI for story ideas, themes, character names and such. Never a "Hey AI, make me a fully min-maxed Skinwalker Monk with a brief story" and call it a day. More so brainstorming ideas, as unfortunately, not all of us are fortunate to have people you can go to with that sort of thing, or you may not be close enough with your partners to go "Hey, totally out of the blue, can I talk to you about this Dragonborn rogue I'm thinking of making?".

In terms of actual story writing with people here or other RP forums? I can see it being a useful tool if you're just sorely lacking inspiration and just want some ideas. But, I also feel that if your RP partner isn't receptive to even have brainstorming discussions that it might be a doomed venture to begin with. I do feel that if you utilize AI for full blown post responses that at that point you may as well find one of those NSFW AI groups, pay for a sub and just write with an AI instead. AI isn't going to care that you only give it a sentence or two, and can completely carry a story (Well...As well as the technology allows, at least).

RPing on forums like BMR or joining groups, you're doing it because you want to write with other people and be creative together. To take yourself out of that equation just feels like you're approaching everything for the wrong reasons? I honestly don't know how I'd react if a partner admitted to me that they've been using AI to write their responses to me. I think that I would feel more....Upset at myself that maybe my writing was causing this and would want to know what I could do to re-engaged that person or see what it is in my writing that's causing things? Though, I understand that's more telling of who I am more than anything else.

Ultimately, it comes down to the individual and how they perceive AI use, and there isn't a right or wrong answer to anything. Both "sides" in their arguments are valid and it's just comes down to preference. Don't like AI and don't want to interact with anyone who uses them? Valid. You're a total AI user and it allows you to feel like you're doing better as a writer and find more enjoyment? Equally Valid.

 

[Lockdown]

So the argument is back to I dont like AI, its not the same as a human. Without why other than, a nebulous feeling.

if your argument is their are communities out there that can help you. You are not wrong, but not everyone has it in them to reach out to others until they build their resolve. The argument of I could do it, anybody should never flies.

I did a thing without AI, so its useless is also not a real argument.

it does not really matter to me, I guess any point of arguing for it die on people getting an icky feeling towards it.

Its not new for me to like something before it becomes popular, and this will be no different only clearly anyone who uses AI will end up never admitting to others its use, seeing as you will simply be treated like a bastard child of old cause people will just assune you are pasting only what AI spits out.

So instead of guilding new people to use a tool in a better more accepted way by the community, you will get people doing nothing of use with it and reinforcing the same negative views.

I guess I will bow out, and just see in ten years how things have changed.

Humans have created tales of grand adventures long before AI was conceived. How is through the spark of the imagination. You lose that spark when it’s generated by a highly intelligent algorithm who spits out an answer for you. Sort of like a painting being more valuable when it’s an original piece vs a printout copy. I think there’s something more inherently special when a human creates the story, world, characters, etc vs a machine for that reason. One came from the soul and the love of the art while the other replicates what data it sees before it to craft an answer to your liking based on the parameters you set.

I hope I explained my position better instead of coming across as not liking AI for a “nebulous feeling”.