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Detailed. Long term settings. Modern, realistic type. No supernaturals (except ghosts, demons. I can't do vampires and etc...)
Good plot to smut ratio 60-70 : 30-40
THIRD person only

Lastly, if you message me, please be thorough as to which idea you like and what more you have to add to it.
I always enjoy hearing your ideas for my plot OR even BRING your own ideas that you want to run it by me.
I am always open to taking on your ideas if you do have them and want me to play. Do give me a good plot, not just some pairings.
Expand your imagination, tell me what you are thinking, surprise me! Basically, Let's have fun!!!


PLOTS
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A couple's romantic/kink getaway! [FxM]
[Seeking to play male role but could be convinced otherwise]

Before you read: I prefer first person (but also okay with third). I also would prefer my partner use pictures through the RP of the faceclaim we decide on together 'if you are playing the female lead here'.

My wife, Kriti, and I have been married for five years. Since our beautiful Sarah was born, everything turned into a routine: wake up, work, take care of the baby, and sleep. It was always the same. And I could see it affecting our relationship, from constant arguing, to tiredness, and simply not caring about each other's day. So, I decided we needed a change. I planned a weekend escape for just the two of us. I booked a nice hotel, packed our bags, and arranged for Kriti's parents to look after our baby.

When the day came, I made sure to surprise Kriti that Saturday morning with a bouquet of flowers and the news that we were going for a weekend getaway. Kriti was indeed surprised and excited. After packing our clothes, we dropped off Sarah with her parents, and afterwards we were ready for our little road trip. The drive was only a few hours long but I hoped it would help us reconnect.

As we started driving, Kriti looked at me and said, "This is nice. I didn't expect this." I smiled. "I thought we needed a break. Just you and me."

We chatted and laughed, sang to the Spotify list we had set up, and the hours went by quickly. Soon, we were driving through a beautiful, quiet area, pine trees all over. It was just a beautiful surrounding all over. I noticed Kriti glancing at me with a playful look. "I have an idea," she said softly. "Oh? What is it?" I asked, trying to stay calm.

Kriti leaned closer and whispered, "Let's make this trip a bit more interesting." I raised an eyebrow, curious. "Interesting how?" She bit her lip and looked around to make sure no one was nearby on the road in front, behind us or on the next lane. "Well, since we have some privacy, maybe we can enjoy the drive in a... different way?"

I felt a thrill of excitement. "Are you suggesting...?"

"Something like that," Kriti said, her voice a mix of playfulness and desire. She reached over and gently touched my leg. "Let's make this road trip unforgettable."

I'm looking forward to playing this slice of life, real life scenario with you! Being in a marriage can sometimes turn into a monotonous, routine like experience after a few years together, so why not surprise the one you love with a little getaway either to a cabin or to a trip at a hotel over on the mountains with a beautiful scenery from the balcony of our room. You know the deal, get a little frisky during the drive as an appreciation, maybe even pulling over, going for a romantic dinner together, have some more fun in our room, and continue the next day!
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Why Do I keep going back to her?
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[FxF, seeking partners who can play F character]

I did not put in efforts to have recalled that girl's name, though I knew it started with 'D'. The notepad on which you wrote your number down still sat on my table, tossed somewhere.

I figured she wouldn't have wanted to see me again, like most of the ladies! They get a taste, taboo feeling of being with a girl, and that's all they can handle. Digest. Perhaps it is I who scare them off, and like them all, I probably scared you too so I never bothered to save your number.

Two weeks! That's how long it's been since I saw you and since I had been with anyone. In fact, it was the most amazing night of my life too and I could tell that it was your first time. I enjoy these first timers...for sure! But soon, they realize this is not for them and leave, so I have learned the hard way- no repeats!

Yet, I come home from a tough day of work, interviewing and travelling to places for my work, I am looking to wind down rather than go out. And whlie my drive home, I thought about reaching out to you, since only you come to my mind. I couldn't contact for any of my old hook ups. Unfortunately, it would have to wait until I get home.

A few hours later.....

When I do get home, first thing I do is text you, pretty sure you would say no but you surprised me! I do tidy up the place since I was going to have you over again, but mostly also picked up a Chinese take out, enough for two people, hoping you would agree to come when I text you.

I also picked up a bottle of wine, considering you give me tht 'fine woman' vibe. And then the bell rang, moving to the door to grab it open, a smile on my face, "Didn't think you'd come," I say as if picking up from where we left off. "I hope you didn't have to cancel your plans because of me? Come on in!" I say making space for you to enter, dressed in a white top and lose comfortable pair of jeans.

I didn't want to scare you away so I do lean in but for a side hug. "Water? Wine? Beer?"

Premises: A straight woman had experienced her first Lesbian experience, with another Bisexual woman. Given there is no expectation for a relationship, it should have only been ONE NIGHT STAND. But the straight girl keeps thinking about her, but also anxious that the lady did not call her back, and it's been a few days?

I as hoping to play the slightly more dominant/care free girl, but I can be convinced to play the other girl- the meek character.

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An early anniversary gift [FxM, FxF]
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[Adultery, blackmail, corruption, slow/gradual plot > One-shot]

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It's that time of the year. Anniversary of their marriage.

Last couple of months have been hectic for them both! The work, the life at home, the kids….it had been nonstop. The married woman, always invested in her marriage, finding way to keep the fire going because if not for that, the marriage life becomes dull. The ties start to rust and it doesn't take long for it to break.


It's either that or the man starts lurking elsewhere, or the woman for that matter. And then, the relationship is never the same after that! The vow she'd made on their wedding day many years ago, she tries and remind herself every day so their marriage can grow stronger. She can grow stronger. 

Heck, it's what allowed her to TRY things she'd never tried before. And now, tonight, she wanted to give him an early anniversary present to her husband! She'd sent the kids, 3 years ago and 7 years old, to her in-laws. Especially since the older one was wanting to visit grandparents. It was the perfect setup because they would be alone for the night. It was the perfect setup for marriage couple to engage in risqué setting, explore a bit of what she thought the husband maybe into!

Putting on a blindfold, she put her wrists in the cuffs after donning a pretty lingerie set. "I was waiting for you….."

Question: Is the marriage on the rocks? Is the husband sleeping with another behind her back and has her doubts? Does her 'widower' father-in-law secretly pine for his son's wife? If it's not possible, can he blackmail her?

Twists and turns:

1. The father-in-law brings over the 3 year old back since he kept on crying, wanting to be with mommy. So he calls his daughter-in-law but she doesn't answer. His son, when he did answer, he said he will be going out with the client and may not be able to come home tonight. The kid fell asleep by the time Father-in-law drove home, and now he was here, he figured he'd just leave the kid with his mother. Surprise awaits for him.

2. Husband comes home with a colleague of his, and both are surprised to find the wife there. Though the husband have talked about spicing things by having her sleep with another? (In his absence- in another room perhaps - I am not into cuckolding)

3. I am open for other fun ideas.

Looking for: Anyone to play the male or female. I can be convinced to take on the Male role as well.

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The Babysitter
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[Seeking partners for Male role --> to be played as Multi character- FxM; not an orgy RP but one on one encounter]

There was this movie a myan years back called The Babysitters, where the stereotypical thing happens, where the husband and the babysitter hook up because he's not feeling loved/feels old/blah blah blah. Well, he gives her a huge tip when he ends up blabbering on about his marriage to the sitter, given she's a good listener. Every encounter there onwards brings them closer. However, this is not just a typical one on one babysitter x daddy plot but more like a realistic setting where the young girl is actually taking up more babysitting gigs, becoming that perfect partner to many men. Think of her filling on SHOES the various men need her to

Basically what I'm looking for is someone to play different men against my babysitter. I must add that this is not your typical smut plot but things do lead to smut as characters bond emotionally, so there's a lot of plot to go alongside. Men could be well off but with problems of their own (example: one may feel his marriage is at a loss after his wife doesn't show much interest, another man is unsatisfied with the wife not being sexual as active after their child, another could be a widower, a father who sees a wife in the sitter....unlimited possibilities. It's a long term plot, scene by scene. The idea of making money for college/a car/whatever takes birth and she becomes more open to this whole thing.

[This RP requires the partner to play different male characters, so please consider that before messaging me.]

The last conversation that Nina had with her parents was upon her arrival from school was not a pleasant one. "Our good family friend, who desperately needs a babysitter, is willing to pay bit extra plus a ride as well. We think you should try it. We know you said you don't like babysitting but they are my friends and want someone they can trust. They've had a bad experience with other ones," her mother said as Nina looked at them and frowned without letting out a word and saw them looking at each other before they spill the real story, "You can say no if you want….but WE KIND OF TOLD THEM OK ON YOUR BEHALF AND THAT YOU WILL BE GLAD TO BABYSIT FOR THEM."

Nina's eyes widen hearing what they have done and quickly she lowered her gaze as her father got up and placed a hand over her shoulder, "Look you don't have to if you don't want to but just try this out not for us but for yourself. Just tonight. They are our your mother's friends. Just think about it." Her father played another card on her hoping she'd say yes, and it's not like she had a choice after they'd given their words.

And this is what played over and over in Nina's mind, understanding how her parents had manipulated the whole situation. Then, she thought to herself an hour or two later when her father was dropping her off across the towns, 'I have to start somewhere!!! Even though I don't like babysitting but it seems I don't have any other way out. Not today.' She turned to look outside the window and before she knew, they reached much fancy part of another town, glancing up at the two story house that was much bigger than their own.

Nina wanted to make her future bright and of course that too with loads of money to live a worry-free life. She wasn't excited about this either because if her friends and other kids at school finds out, they'd make fun of her even more. Her father was more liberal that he gave her an option if she doesn't like it today, then she won't not have to keep doing this babysitting gig. She thought to herself, 'Perfect! I can go today and comes next time, I can tell him no. This way I don't even have to hear mom's banter.' She stood outside the door after ringing the doorbell, now that her father had dropped her off and was in his car by the curbside, waiting for the door to open before he'd leave, she couldn't wait thinking of when she'd be on her way back. Sure, she'd have to wait until the couple comes home and have one of them drop her off. It was a Thursday evening, so she had nothing to worry about. Dressed in a pair of jeans, a white top with a black vest on it, she held her bookbag on her shoulders as she waited patiently.


Title: Warping minds
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Theme: Hypnosis, incest, non-incest slow, detailed play, mind corruption, multiple characters (willing to play different girls centered out main male character)
Seeking: Mx F

I have kept this intro post very broad because I want us to discuss who the male and female is? Friends, siblings, boyfriend-girlfriend, colleague, Doctor/patient and so forth.....What I do want is for there to be gradual transformation of characters rather than going right into smut. The changes, they need to be incorporated into their personality. I like to play out the initial trance/hypnosis scene, during which the male character can build back door to enter and exit trance with a blink of an eye. Think of computer programming, and keyboard short cut to enter EDIT mode.

You can either come to me with an initial intro post to blindly play to see where it goes or can also discuss this prior to start.

I don't want to specifically start RP at this starting point, but this is just an idea of what and how things can be done.

Oh my. It had worked. Paul couldn't believe it. 'Subliminal hypnosis seduction', it was called.

He'd found it whilst browsing dark web one night, but like so many of these 'get a girl, quick' schemes, he'd dismissed it at first. Until spam email in his email with the link, directly, telling him that he really should give it a try.

And so Paul did. A small test, just to make sure. His sister had come over to his room during evening hours since her room was always hot during this time of the day, the sunlight hitting her windows directly! So before she even came, he was toying with the Hypnosis track and when she sat at the desk, he decided to play the track underneath the music.

After about 5 minutes, he decided to try. And he was also learning so this was going to be hit or miss. Also depending on if this really works! "Could you get me a glass of water from the kitchen?" He asked but also because he knows she will never do it. She is the laziest of them all!

Another 5 minutes passes, the Subliminal hypnosis track playing in the background. He was getting antsy just because he felt like he had a toy in his hand and couldn't get it to work! "Could you get some water from the kitchen for me?" She paused, turned around, and thought for a second…almost as if she is considering. "Why don't you go and get it?"

He grew frustrated and finally, at 15 minute mark, he decided to give one final try. And this time around he decided to be firm. "Stop what you are doing, and go get me a glass of water!" He emphasized and as simple as that, he watched his sister get up, leave the room, and return after a minute with a glass of water in her hand before turning back to her work.


A man of god and god's created temptations!
[Theme: F x M; Corruption, right vs wrong, virtues, multi-character]
Seeking: Either role [A priest or the woman in question]​

The life of a priest isn't easy, not all the time. Being a pillar of the community, the link between human and divine, having to uphold certain standards and morals. However, sometimes, you end up in situations which challenge your faith and your integrity as a whole. So it was for one priest when one day, a woman took a seat in the confessional, ready to confide in God above about the sins which she committed. Her confession sounded more like the diary of a really, really easy woman, retelling her counts of the times when she'd cheated on her spouse or took strangers home. A nymphomaniac, to be certain. After that day, he thought he'd never hear her again, but not long after, she returned. And then again. He knew it was her, he already learned the sound of her voice, which rang in his mind even during prayer time, tempting him to imagine the kinds of things she might've done with the men she'd been with. For a whole year, she was a regular, coming about once every month or so to talk about what she'd done, and each new tale added to the weight until, at last, the priest broke, desiring to at least see her, just once, to add a face to all those debauched thoughts she'd put into his mind.



Covid bringing the family Closer!
[Daughter in law x Father in law, Incest, Fx M, adultery, sneaking around]
[Requirement: Slow drag, detailed, multi para, First person (preferred) or third person style]
This story is about daughter in law and father in law coming together, slowly exploring what is between them. Mainly an attraction from his side, which later is transparent from hers, leading to doing things they should not do! I am open to play male or female. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Five years ago, it had been the happiest day of my life. It was the day I got married to the love of my life. I couldn't brag just how much I love him, and to this day, every single day, I make it my business to tell him how much I love him. Given his crazy work hours, he leaves early, before I wake up and mostly comes home late, as I tire out and fall asleep waiting for him. So is the way of life- every day, and he even works on weekends at times, if not that, he is gone for a few weeks for work to another branch as he is now promoted.

He says it's for a better future....I would agree, but you also have to enjoy life! Make money, spend money. He seems to have forgotten how to do the latter, it seems. I always tell him to take over Papa's business, as he is ready to retire, having work all his life! It was his duty to retire him. Heck, even I felt I should, as his daughter-in-law! But I also think that Papa needs to be a little active since he lost the love of his life not too long ago, my mother in law.

He had changed entirely, as if he had forgotten how to live! But I did notice he is more AROUND! Which is amazing, the kids love him and I have a company at home, especially given the pandemic where new order of life is established!

Amidst all the crazy chaos, it just had to be now that I end up catching Covid! Just when my husband is traveling for the next 2 weeks- the duration of her quarantine period. He said, "I think it's better since you can't come out of the room, and I am gone for this project so I won't catch it from you." And first thing Papa asked or said when I told him I got Covid was, "I am coming over to bring you food and supplies, and I am taking the kids. Just pack their clothes if you can."

And there it was- the major difference between two men in whose veins runs the same blood. So opposite. One loved his wife dearly, and still does after she has passed. And my husband, he doesn't express his feelings as often now even when I am alive and around!



Chemistry Project

[FxM, Geek x popular girl (Highschool setting), coercion, manipulation, using his authority over her to get something in return]​

This idea is still in construction. I want to play a girl where she is partnered with a geek in her class. He happens to be the smartest and geekest of all. As their first project ends, he offers her help in case if she ever needs any. At first she avoids him after they were done with their assignment but seeing they aced the project…in the class she was struggling in, she figured a little bit of help from him won’t hurt at all. At first she treats him with nice gifts out of appreciation and they start meeting at places to work on different assignment (her room, his place) she needs help with. She wants good grades and she found a sucker to help her. He starts demanding different things from her in repayment after realizing she'd be willing to pay cash as well as much more. Kind of like asking her to wear certain clothes for him at school and etc. She will eventually start liking this, his boldness and dominant demeanor and it gradually turns bit sexual. This is a slow, long term plot. Again….this is still in construction and would love partner’s input in this.

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A beauty and Geek (A sorority task)

{Seeking male geek character for this RP to play against my female characters}
[General concept is about a girl who trying to join this sorority desperately and came this far. The last step being (Read the intro post) is the only thing that's stopping her. But while performing the task, no matter how ugly or fat the geek is, what if she falls for him in way she never imagined? What would start out just as a task where she has to sleep with him and move on...what if she keeps finding herself at his doorsteps? Apart from having a nice big and thick surprise for her, what else would draw her to him? How kinky is he? Is he a virgin? Just how big is her? Does he treat her like a princess because he knows he can never score a girl like her AND YET treat her as a whore in bed? The kins that are in contrast to his inexperience, but porn being a great education, what wicked fantasies he may have to play out with her.......]


There is so much that can be explored here....send me all of your ideas!


“Girls…well, little girls, I know you all want to be a part of this fine Sorority. I mean, come on, it’s why you all are still here, came this far despite being put to test. You are here because of your hard work, but you are not yet out sister!” Erin, the senior of them all spoke, the president of the Sorority Alpha Phi.

Pacing back and forth before a group of 7 girls that stood in horizontal life, “I was saying, you have one final test to pass. Mind you, it is the hardest. Hence the final test. Now, we all are bound, not you newbies, but the proud sisters of Alpha Phi have something incriminating that bonds us, into keeping our secret a secret. We all have been though these initiation ceremonies. It is stored safely and in my protection. You might be wondering why the fuck I am telling you all this!”

Erin laughed, “Well, the reason I am telling you all this is because this last step is about you doing something incriminating and with that, you will become one of us. Out of the 7 of course, only 5 will be accepted, in the order of completion of this task as well as whoever having done it the best!” 

The girls grew eager as she dragged on and on and on! “Just tell them Erin! I bet two of them will leave right about now!” Another sister said from the crowd. Erin laughed, “Well, alright then. Here goes nothing. So, hooking up with a fine handsome boy or a jock….that’s every easy. Everyone likes handsome guys, right ladies?” The girls in the sorority cheered, about a good 10 of them. And the 7 prospective ones.

“Hooking up with someone not so handsome? Or ugly, or fat? Thin? Just not your typically preferred guy? Yes, that’s difficult. What do you do? Close your eyes imagine a fine Actor?” Erin sighed as she continued, “But you see, you are going to hook up with that fat, ugly, okay looking Geek! You all will be given a list of Geeks on our campus. You can pick either one of them. You will have two weeks to complete this task. The task being is that you will have to sleep with them. That’s right! What we need as a proof is your picture, in his room so we know who the geek is, with his cum on you. Or in you. We don’t care. But your face should be clearly visible. Heck, have him take a picture of you, I am sure he won’t mind. Well, that’s it. The list is already sent to your emails. You will see them geeks in some of your classes, may even see them at parties, as they are all invited. Though they are not worth it. Now, off you go….One step away from becoming our proud sisters!”


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At Crossroads {FxM}

[THis is more of a challenging RP, for those who are pros! Suggested characters to play in this RP is the online RP partner she is talking to, her landlord, a scholarship sugardaddy, Gloryhole....and plenty more that you can think of. . ]


CuteAlia20:
Urghh…that was a good run of RP today! I am glad we made the time to continue our RP!

DaddyDom: I know, right! Sorry, life has been very hectic of lately. But I am glad we got the time to catch up. And the blowjob scene you wrote, gosh, you made me cum with your words. Though I am surprised you said you've only been with only two guys in the past.

CuteAlia20: Yeah, I’ve been busy myself. The college, the part-time work….the exams! And I am already falling behind on my rent, tuitions, bills…you name it! As for the blowjob scene, it is true I've only been with two guys, but I was also afraid of sex back then and I resorted a lot to giving handjobs and blowjobs to my ex-boyfriends.

DaddyDom: You know, I don’t want to push it….but the offer still stands. I mean, if you want to, we can meet in person. I can even send pictures of myself if it would help. And knowing your situation, I am willing to give you $3000 if you spend the weekend with me. All we played in RP, we can see if you can entertain it in real life. But I know you like to keep online and real life separate. But hey, if not me, you can definitely sleep with your landlord for rent! Believe me, you will be surprised how easy it would be convince him to give you a break. BIG BREAK! Besides, you've still got a few years in USA as a student here, but you will eventually have to go back to your home country. You might as well live life here!

CuteAlia20: Eww! Have you even seen him? He’s like that 250 to 300 pound guy. Old. Chubby. With belly! But thank you for the idea. And also the offer. I am just not ready yet. I might as well move back to my country! I just might! Don’t worry, we will still RP.

DaddyDom: Aww, of you can marry me, and legally, you will have a green card. After you get it, we go separate ways!

CuteAlia20: That might just work! I will think about it...OR NOT! lol

Daddydom: By the way, if not that, I found this website where they list the places of all the adult stores that actually host the Gloryhole. The list keeps changing but I found this on Craigslist and it might benefit you. You said you're good with your mouth. Might as well get paid for it? If anything...check out the rates. Here is the link....see if it's near you. A few hours drive would be a good one, so no one would know you.

CuteAlia20: Oh...thank you. I will take a look at it later. Gotta go for now!
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It was later that night, she had logged back in only to find the link in last the last message from her online RP partner. Though she'd taken it as a joke, she couldn't help but wonder just how much such a thing would pay. Though she'd also considered his suggestion of sleeping with her landlord, she wasn't really sure about it. Nor she was considering seeing the man behind screen, the DaddyDom. He was friendly for sure....but he'd be the last viable option, when she really have no choice but to go to him. At least it would help her financially if she went with him, and she'd be set for the time she's living in the states, studying. The worst was to come here on a student visa, and then not being able to work!

That night, she sat in her bed, exploring the website and read through how gloryholes worked. She couldn't understand a whole lot except that it was like some club membership. Once the day and hour is decided after the girl gets approved, pending her profile, the members informed and they can come to the Adult store, hang in the lounge only to take turns. The transaction is made through the Adult store, paid in cash to the girl at the end of the job. It was as real as it could get. Best thing was that these men have to keep a clean track record, submit proofs they are disease free. That's because there's sex and the girl gets paid more should she agrees not to use condom.

Though it wasn't all too clear and how much you'd make wasn't even there. So Alia closed the website and went about her night. Studying.

And that was it for the night. The partner with whom she’d been roleplaying for a long time, such a nice guy who lives on different coast. But they make it their business to continue a good RP they’d been playing, which had everything- romance, plot, smut, kinks, even BDSM. But it wasn’t that, it’s what he said ...the options he gave to her, even though wicked. Her landlord. The gloryhole. Even just to spend a weekend with him...there was money to be earned. And for a girl who had no support, she'd have to make money on her own. If not the hard way, an easy way.

That lingered on in Alia’s head. As silly as it sounded, that night she kept on contemplating about it. It’s not like she had a boyfriend. She was single. She was not desperate for sex or love either…..but definitely was desperate for money! Being the only one her while the rest of her family is her home country, she has no way out of this but to see through. She was here on student visa. She had received a scholarship that allowed her to study in the states.

But it was only for the first year. Rest of the three years, she would have to pay out of pocket. Unless she gets scholarship. Well, that was also an option, but she hadn't landed any scholarship. Sometimes she wonders if she could just go up to one of them older donors and propose a sugardaddy idea to them. Like she had in her roleplay with another partner. The roleplay circled the concept of Sugardaddy and it made her think how nice it would be meet her sugardaddy at the scholarship event. Whatever…she was meek and shy girl in real. Even if such a thing would happen, she would never even say YES! Would she? It's why she roleplays.

For now, the landlord had given her the last notice. She didn’t open the door but he slipped the eviction letter the day before. So she was scared out of her mind because she had nowhere to go.

TWO DAYS LATER!

After contemplating again and again, playing the scenario in her head after looking online and reading up on some of the gloryhole ideas, Alia cursed herself for even entertaining the thing. It was only then, she consoled herself that she was only gathering information. She went on the website and clicked on the email link. An email message popped up in her outlook with a funny email. On the site, it said to send first name, age, and a few pictures. If they find the girl is pretty enough, they will respond back. She'd also done her research and someone wrote you can bargain what you can make at the gloryhole. Whether it's a simple handjob, blowjob, or actually sex. There were different things, including condom or no condom, cumming outside or inside. Wasting a cumshot and you only get paid half for that job. So many exceptions but also many more ways to leave the adult store with as close to five grand!

Well, she wrote up and email....and then hovered over the send button before hitting send! And now, it was a waiting game. Not saying yes but just checking it out. Her mind also wandered over to the immediate issue as she looked at her eviction notice, and wondered if she should strike a deal with her landlord! Urgh....Should I?- she asked herself, debating what it would be like to get into pro quid quo situation with these men!
 
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