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Pedophilia Versus Anime Lolicon.

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Kite Xiroh

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Thoughts?
 
Not my cup of tea... at all. ;l
But I guess it's better then people actually looking at child porn, kind of. :S
 
I don't like lolicon art or any of that sort of stuff, but I'd rather people aroused by that sort of stuff look at anime as opposed to real children, or going out into the world and abusing children. At least in drawings no children are directly hurt, but it's probably not the best thing to do, anyway.
 
I'm not really all that sure what the difference between the two is.
Anime lolicon is the exact same thing as child pornography. ... Isn't it?

I mean, I know that anime isn't real, but it's still technically supporting the same thing.
 
It's the same dysfunction, but with a cheap justification. True, no children were hurt, but the same problem drives both markets.
 
Calista said:
I don't like lolicon art or any of that sort of stuff, but I'd rather people aroused by that sort of stuff look at anime as opposed to real children, or going out into the world and abusing children. At least in drawings no children are directly hurt, but it's probably not the best thing to do, anyway.
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Hey! A real post!
Why do you say that it isn't the best thing to do? Isn't anime lolicon infinitely better than the alternative?
 
Trygon said:
It's the same dysfunction, but with a cheap justification. True, no children were hurt, but the same problem drives both markets.
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This isn't entirely true. Some people would never think of raping a child, but they enjoy anime lolicon.

The two can't necessarily be labled as the same.
 
Sapphire Eyes said:
I'm not really all that sure what the difference between the two is.
Anime lolicon is the exact same thing as child pornography. ... Isn't it?

I mean, I know that anime isn't real, but it's still technically supporting the same thing.
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Uh. Does anime lolicon have pictures of real children in it that are being exploited? No.

I don't think either are good, but the difference is pretty clear.

Kite Xiroh said:
Why do you say that it isn't the best thing to do? Isn't anime lolicon infinitely better than the alternative?
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Yes, it's better than the alternative but I don't think it's the solution. That's what I meant. :)
 
Kite Xiroh said:
Calista said:
I don't like lolicon art or any of that sort of stuff, but I'd rather people aroused by that sort of stuff look at anime as opposed to real children, or going out into the world and abusing children. At least in drawings no children are directly hurt, but it's probably not the best thing to do, anyway.
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Hey! A real post!
Why do you say that it isn't the best thing to do? Isn't anime lolicon infinitely better than the alternative?
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I'm guessing that she means you should jerk it to adults instead of thinking about little girls, or boys.
 
Calista said:
Yes, it's better than the alternative but I don't think it's the solution. That's what I meant. :)
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I think this is what she actually meant, Zombiie.
 
Kite Xiroh said:
Trygon said:
It's the same dysfunction, but with a cheap justification. True, no children were hurt, but the same problem drives both markets.
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This isn't entirely true. Some people would never think of raping a child, but they enjoy anime lolicon.

The two can't necessarily be labled as the same.
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Sure they can. Attracted to children = attracted to children. And even though not all pedophiles rape children, I promise you all child molesters are pedophiles. The simple fact is, anyone that partakes in either fetish is a potential child rapist.
 
Calista said:
I don't like lolicon art or any of that sort of stuff, but I'd rather people aroused by that sort of stuff look at anime as opposed to real children, or going out into the world and abusing children. At least in drawings no children are directly hurt, but it's probably not the best thing to do, anyway.
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I second this not good in any way but better then the alternatives
 
You're putting them under the same lable again, Trygon.

Anime children does not equal actual/real children.
 
I know people will probably flame me for this but in a way I feel sorry for pedophiles. The ones who hold back their urges, at least. It's a mental illness - that does not mean it's okay to exploit or abuse children, but I don't think that all pedophiles are evil people. I've met a man who had those urges, but he's held them back for his entire life and is ashamed of them - I think he's a pretty good person despite of that, and very powerful that he can live with such a thing without acting out his urges. Not all pedophiles are evil child rapists. :|
 
Kite Xiroh said:
You're putting them under the same lable again, Trygon.

Anime children does not equal actual/real children.
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I know I am.

And people that wank to anime children DO equal people who wank to real children.
 
All of this makes me think of the final book in Piers Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality series. About half of the adult males in that book were closet pedophiles...it cracked me right the fuck up and rather disturbed me at the same time.
 
Calista said:
Uh. Does anime lolicon have pictures of real children in it that are being exploited? No.

I don't think either are good, but the difference is pretty clear.
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Well, I get the logical sort of difference.
Duh.

I just meant that it supports the same thing. Sure, no child is exploited over anime lolicon, but it could lead to it.
 
Sapphire Eyes said:
Well, I get the logical sort of difference.
Duh.

I just meant that it supports the same thing. Sure, no child is exploited over anime lolicon, but it could lead to it.
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This is true. There are people who would want to take their fantasies much farther than they should.
 
Misha Hiroki said:
All of this makes me think of the final book in Piers Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality series. About half of the adult males in that book were closet pedophiles...it cracked me right the fuck up and rather disturbed me at the same time.
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And Eternity? That book put a bad taste in my mouth. And after such an awesome series, too.
 
Trygon said:
Misha Hiroki said:
All of this makes me think of the final book in Piers Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality series. About half of the adult males in that book were closet pedophiles...it cracked me right the fuck up and rather disturbed me at the same time.
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And Eternity? That book put a bad taste in my mouth. And after such an awesome series, too.
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Yeah, that's the one. I can't remember where I put it, but I have it here somewhere along with the rest of the series.
 
Sapphire Eyes said:
Calista said:
Uh. Does anime lolicon have pictures of real children in it that are being exploited? No.

I don't think either are good, but the difference is pretty clear.
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Well, I get the logical sort of difference.
Duh.

I just meant that it supports the same thing. Sure, no child is exploited over anime lolicon, but it could lead to it.
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Anything can lead to anything. Looking at anime lolicon doesn't mean that person will go out and exploit children. I know this argument isn't the best, but some may argue that if there wasn't lolicon pedophiles would be exploiting children more often to satisfy their desires. : /
 
Kite Xiroh said:
This is true. There are people who would want to take their fantasies much farther than they should.
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Exactly!
So, do you see how anime lolicon is almost as bad as child porn?
It's all fantasy anyway, since the person watching child porn isn't hurting the child. But they could. So, defending anime lolicon with the 'fantasy' thing don't really make much sense.

But, I'm not technically antagonizing you, I'm still trying to figure out a logical difference.

&& Calista:
In some ways that makes perfect sense. But, still...it does encourage it just as much.
God.
I hate it when people make me think really seriously like this.
But, I'm under the opinion that it's probably more wrong than right anyway.
 
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